More firewall request

Kurt Seifried kseifried at redhat.com
Thu Aug 6 15:51:18 UTC 2015


Just remove PackageKit and install updates manually at the time of your
choosing.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Andrew Walton <andrewfixcomputer at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just a bit of background information on myself and my firewall request.
>
> Personally, I've been a geek since I bought a second hand TRS-80 back in
> '83. I loved DOS but thought it could have been taken further. In the late
> 90's I was one of Microsoft's biggest fans, but dear old Bill retired in
> 2001 and it turns out the rest of the board are complete arseholes that
> couldn't give a rat's fart for their customers as long as the money keeps
> rolling in. This is when I started playing with different Linuxes.
>
> These days I still run a couple of Windows's for playing games but they
> are completely isolated systems. I never give Windows drivers for Lan or
> Wireless, saves so much heartache and pain and Windows is actually stable
> as long as it can't find what it thinks is an update. Runs a lot quicker
> without virus protection too. Still impossibly slow compared to Fedora with
> an early version of Gnome 3 though. Later versions of Gnome3 are worse than
> Windows.
>
> My educational background - I didn't even finish high school but I had a
> genuine interest in computers, like any puzzle, I just wanted to know how
> they worked and ripping the case open wasn't very helpful at first.
>
> My community - There are many service providers in Australia catering to
> about 85% of the population, but in rural Australia there is only one
> service provider. Optus, Dodo, iPrimus, Vodaphone and the rest cover less
> than 15% of Australia's land mass, the one unmentionable provider knows it
> has us over a barrel. It can charge what it likes, ignore complaints and
> fail to service infrastructure and there is nothing we can do about it.
>
> Just to add insult to injury, if we get someone old to phone them and
> complain and mention the legal obligations of a sole service provider and
> communications - "I'm old and I'm sick and I need to send my blood test
> results to the doctor" etc. then we all get reliable high speed access for
> a few hours before they throttle it back again. And we pay through the nose
> for this type of service.
>
> Under normal service conditions we can get speeds of up to 1800 Kbps but
> this is rare, normal speeds you would expect are around 40 Kbps. So an
> unadulterated install of Fedora means that every time you turn the computer
> on your internet access is bogged down by PackageKit and you can't browse
> the net or send emails until it has finished 40 minutes later.
>
> Then there's a few people running several computers, collectively
> PackageKit is costing them about $1 a day each even when they've just done
> updates, and they've got no internet access for 40 minutes. Some have
> rightly mentioned that except for the virus problems they were better off
> with Windows.
>
> Then take in to consideration that the most popular accounting software
> package in Australia, the one supported by our taxation department, is
> Windows only. Even Mac users have to install Wine for that one. This
> internet access is costing us a fortune and worse, the programmers and
> developers aren't seeing any of that money, it all goes to a modern day
> pirate.
>
> There's about 80 people running Linux in my community now, they all hated
> Win8 enough to try something different. Most are Fedora but I've done a few
> Ubuntu's as well depending on the person's needs, knowledge and skills,
> that would be about $1200 a month just for PackageKit going to the service
> provider if I didn't cripple it just after install.
>
> Please sort out this firewall issue, I'm sure that it won't just be my
> community that is grateful.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew.
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