Server SIG - work areas

Bryan Kearney bkearney at
Wed Jan 7 13:28:15 UTC 2009

seth vidal wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 10:32 -0500, David Huff wrote:
>> Dan Horák wrote:
>>> seth vidal píše v Po 05. 01. 2009 v 14:40 -0500:
>>>> On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 14:37 -0500, David Huff wrote:
>>>>>> Server services
>>>>>>  - bring more server packages into Fedora
>>>>>>  - encourage creation of EPEL branches for existing packages
>>>>>> Kernel
>>>>>>  - everything about the kernel side of servers
>>>>> We have not done anything here, however we have discussed pulling out 
>>>>> some kernel modules that are not needed for virtual appliances.  There 
>>>>> is not an easy way of doing this without "breaking" rpm, current 
>>>>> thinking is to use white/black listing of actual files.
>>>> Do not work outside of rpm for these things. Work within the system you
>>>> have available and/or modify it upstream. Working outside of it means
>>>> that all the tools we already have to work on things w/i the rpm
>>>> framework have to be modified to work nicely with what you're trying to
>>>> do.
>>> Is this about the size of the kernel rpm package or the size of running
>>> kernel and ramdisk?
>> We were more thinking of rpm package size, and the "foot-print" of a 
>> virtual server appliance.  Not all of the kernel modules are needed to 
>> run in a VC.
> What kind of footprint are you looking for? Pulling out kernel modules
> are 1. not going to save you that much space and 2. limiting the hw you
> can run on.

We have heard some folks say "I dont care", since they are running 
higher level applictions which include Java or Ruby. We have heard other 
folks really concered with size (32/64 meg). The latter set is more on 
the embedded side of appliancees.

-- bk

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