Discussion of Fedora Server use-cases

Simo Sorce simo at redhat.com
Tue Oct 29 15:22:47 UTC 2013

On Tue, 2013-10-29 at 16:12 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
> On 28.10.2013 23:55, Michael R. Davis wrote:

> >> Would there be an equivalent -off for folks who wish to manually tinker
> >> prior to enabling?
> >
> > yum erase httpd-on; turns it off it's just a wrapper package...
> >
> > but yum install httpd; service httpd start; would still work.
> >
> >> I'm not convinced that yum should be in the business of
> >> enabling/disabling services like this.
> >
> > "yum" would not be. The spec "post" would actually "do" it.
> >
> Wether a service is started or not is a policy decision that is local to 
> the site where the service is installed and as such shouldn't be 
> hard-coded into a package. Site local configuration policies lie 
> completely outside the scope of package management and as such littering 
> the distribution with lots of "*-on" packages just to make life a tiny 
> bit easier for lazy admins is a really terrible idea I think.

Well there is a case for distributing policy via RPMs, it is a fine
distribution mechanism IMHO, but it is self-evidently a completely local
one, and will be better served by custom admin RPMs rather than
distribution provided ones.


Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York

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