Server WG Governance

Stephen John Smoogen smooge at
Mon Apr 21 22:32:47 UTC 2014

On 21 April 2014 13:57, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh at> wrote:

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> On 04/21/2014 03:42 PM, inode0 wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Stephen Gallagher

> > I'll be watching with great interest as I too have considered
> > proposing something based on consensus decision making for one of
> > the other governance bodies in Fedora.
> >
> This is the tricky part. A consensus-based model is *very* difficult
> to shoehorn into the system after the group has been established for a
> long time. I think we have an opportunity to do so in the Server WG
> right now because at least so far, we've managed to reach consensus on
> almost everything anyway; we haven't really had to deal with splitting
> on major decisions and fighting for swing votes.
> But with groups like FESCo, the Board, FPC, etc. (not singling any
> out), there's a long and entrenched history of majority-based
> decision-making. The unfortunate side-effect there is that it has on
> some occasions led to individuals or factions being unable to work
> together (which is ultimately disfunctional).
I am going to need citations and analysis here. When I was on the board it
was very driven by consensus and while there were +5 -4 votes .. the
majority of them were not put to a vote until it was clear that a consensus
had been reached as best as possible (eg if the vote was +5/-4 then it was
taken off the table until it could be improved to being more than just
enough to pass.)

The bigger problem is that Fedora is a passion project for many many people
who come to it. That brings a lot of emotion and conflict and as much as we
can alleviate it.. it is something that we have to realize is always going
to be there. If we don't want it to be a passion project any more it is
going to take a lot more changing the voting systems

Stephen J Smoogen.
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