[Base] Fedora Base Design Working Group (2014-02-21) meeting minutes and logs

[Adam Williamson]

On 2014-02-24 06:37, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 17:08 +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote:
>> 
>> > Installer is still a hot topic, but thats nothing we could resolve
>> > during our meeting and which might have to be brought up with FESCO again.
>> 
>> So, as cmurf has been trying to point out on desktop@ , we (QA) have
>> some concerns in this area too, and I know the installer team is open 
>> to
>> the idea of at least simplifying the non-custom partitioning path to
>> some extent.
>> 
>> This is an extremely complex topic area, though, and it may be tricky 
>> to
>> get the right things done if multiple teams are considering it in
>> different contexts in different meetings. It would probably be a Very
>> Good Idea to get everyone with an interest - at least anaconda team, 
>> the
>> product WGs (except possibly Cloud, depending on whether they intend 
>> to
>> use anaconda in their deliverables at all), base WG, and fesco -
>> together in some way to talk about it. devconf would've been great but
>> it already happened. Flock would be great but it's too late. Should we
>> try to set up some kind of special meeting / list / etherpad /
>> wikipage / *something* where we can all talk it over?
> 
> Well, the question is if installer changes are short term goals or more
> long terms and before trying to setup any meeting, it would be nice to
> collect more data from other groups. So personally, I'd say Flock would
> be great opportunity to discuss it but on the other hand, it's always
> nice to be prepared for such conversation. The other groups Tech Spec
> should be available within a week, then let's try to look for 
> overlapping
> pieces and I'm definitely volunteer to work on it. Once we have it,
> it's going to be a good time to discuss details and as Base, we should
> incorporate it to our Base design.

We (QA) at least are fairly solidly agreed that we want to push for some 
simplification of the non-custom ('guided') path for F21, and it makes 
sense to make changes like that as soon as possible. The question of the 
product specs is relevant here, so we need to include the WGs as well as 
anaconda team in the discussion, but it's probably not good to push at 
least that part out too far.

Chris Murphy and I are going to work on a concrete proposal for this and 
try to come up with an appropriate place/method for taking it forward 
with input from all the appropriate parties.
-- 
Adam Williamson
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