Fedora server implementation straw man

Michael R. Davis mrdvt92 at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 29 19:37:35 UTC 2014

> From: Kevin Fenzi <kevin at scrye.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:52 PM
>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 22:12:58 -0800 (PST)
>> "Michael R. Davis" <mrdvt92 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I've done this for our
>> RPMs by simply adding "-on" RPMs for example postgresql-server-on,
>> httpd-on, etc. Here are some of the packages that I could contribute
>> but since I'm not and expert they probably have issues or are trivial
>> in the grand scheme of things.  But, these packages have saved us
>> thousand of hours over the long term. chrony-on couchdb-on crond-on
>> httpd-on mysql-server-on nagios-on ntpd-on
>> openssh-server-on
>> postgis-on
>> postgresql-server-on
> I don't see a need for 'on' packages, but a role could ship a systemd
> preset or config that would enable services needed as part of that
> config. 

I'm not sure I care how roles gets a running httpd server but, it's a common task that 1000s of people need to do everyday.

In the spec "Require: httpd-on" is a whole lot easier than doing something in a %post section


I guess bottom line it is currently way too hard to deploy applications via RPMs as there's no foundation.  We just need to build the foundations so Apps can be as easy as 

Require: httpd-on
Require: postgresql-server-on
Require: perl(App::Whatever)


>> A package I just wrote is the "don't install documentation on a
>> headless server package".  I was surprised that I could not find
>> anything like it on the net.  It saves a lot of drive space on
>> servers where you just don't need HTML or man pages. 
> What does this package contain out of curiosity?


$ cat rpm-rpmmacros-server.rpmmacros
%_excludedocs 1

$ cat rpm-rpmmacros-server.spec
%define myrootdir /root
cp rpm-rpmmacros-server.rpmmacros $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/%{myrootdir}/.rpmmacros

Please remember we are a small business about 100 people with only three Linux people (none of us are experts). A big company can afford to re-invent the wheel.  We cannot.


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