Dropping a lot of files from the DVD

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On 10 August 2015 at 13:29, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-08-10 at 15:19 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
>> On Mon, 2015-08-10 at 14:46 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:

>> > Thoughts? I'd like to put this plan in place well in advance of
>> > Beta so
>> > that we can validate it with early test composes (and not risk
>> > slippage).
>>
>> So the DVD just become a netinstall++ ?
>
> Well, no. The DVD would essentially become "Here's the stuff we think
> you need" rather than "Here's all the stuff somebody might ever need".

Never ever ever say "we think you need" on a release for system
administrators. You have just summoned the demons of "You don't know
what I need to get work done.." and "Does anyone really need anything
other than bash and maybe dnf?" :).

So I know that several sites with locked down networks have been using
the server dvd as the replacement for garbage collection DVD's of old
releases because it did have those things. I don't know how many of
those people there are.. but I expect some amount of swearing and
demonizing from them as it means a new workflow they need (or a
different OS).

That said, I am not against lowering the size of the DVD down to a
'this is what we want to call Server OS'  amount

> That's different from the netinstall, which really can install anything
> and everything that exists in the repositories.
>
>
>>
>> I am not against it, just want to understand what will be left back.
>> Will there be packages enough to have a GUI for example ? Or will
>> they
>> all be "available from the network" ?
>>
>
> Well, we don't have a GUI now, excepting Cockpit (which would
> absolutely remain part of the default set included on the DVD). If you
> want a GUI, you need to install it from the network, either by using
> the netinstall media, adding the Everything repo in Anaconda or else
> adding the GUI packages post-install.
>
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Stephen J Smoogen.