Trimming down the package set

Stephen Gallagher sgallagh at redhat.com
Tue Feb 24 18:20:15 UTC 2015


On Mon, 2015-02-09 at 04:31 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> So, at DevConf over the weekend, I had a conversation with several 
> people around the package set that we should include on the Fedora 
> Server install media in Fedora 22.
> 
> When we put together the install media for Fedora 21, we basically 
> took the old Fedora 20 DVD install and stripped out some of the 
> things we didn't feel were necessary for the Server. However, I 
> suspect that we may have missed numerous things that are not 
> *strictly* important for Server.
> 
> In particular, the Fedora Server DVD includes the package groups for 
> many of the Fedora development tools (particularly those useful for 
> developing Fedora *itself*, such as the @fedora-packager group.
> 
> I don't currently have statistics on how much space this would save 
> on the installation DVD (since I would pretty much have to build one 
> without these packages to verify it), but I can get an approximate 
> idea of the difference by installing the minimal set of Server 
> packages on one VM and a set that includes the devel packages on 
> another.
> 
> The result I see is:
> == Standard Server Install ==
> * 614 packages
> * 1,097 MB on the installed system
> 
> == Server Install Plus Development Tools ==
> * 716 packages
> * 1496 MB on the installed system.
> 
> Even if we assume a (very) generous assumption that the RPM 
> compression reduces the size difference by 50%, we still see a 
> probable savings of 200 MB on the install DVD.
> 
> So, my questions to the Server SIG:
> 1) Is this savings in the DVD ISO download size sufficiently 
> significant to continue this conversation?
> 2) Does anyone see any value in keeping this material *on the DVD*? 
> Obviously, all of these packages will remain available to the 
> network install or post-installation environments.
> 
> 
> 
> For those who are interested in minutiae, I am attaching the current 
> fedora-install-server.ks file that is used to generate the DVD. If 
> you see anything else there that might be worth including in this 
> discussion, I'm all ears.



Since no one disapproved of the above, I went ahead and removed them 
from the DVD kickstart. We'll see in tomorrow's TC if it saved much 
space.
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