[DISCUSS] Cloud and Server Workgroup relationship

[Dan Mossor]

On 11/03/2015 02:44 PM, Jason Brooks wrote:
> My two cents: I'm looking at Fedora's editions with certain
> expectations. I see Workstation, and I know what I'm going to
> get and where I expect it to run. I see Server, and I expect:
>
> * a fairly minimal image
> * something I can run on bare metal, VM or cloud
>
> Instead, Server is a big image (2.1GB) that's not supposed to be run
> in the cloud.

Just to add a clarification, the DVD is in fact 2.1GB. An installed 
server, however, lives very well on minimal resources.

A default Fedora Server install installs 603 packages in Anaconda. With 
the "Minimal" package set selected in anaconda, only 270 packages are 
installed.

I have run a FreeIPA server on a Fedora Server VM with 1024MB of RAM, 
and a 4GB hard drive. Granted, the use case was minimal - 30 or so 
users, and a few systems actually enrolled in the domain - but I had 
zero issues with resources on that system.

Some snippets from two freshly installed systems, the first a 'minimal' 
install from the Fedora Server DVD:

[root at localhost ~]# df -lh
Filesystem               Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs                 993M     0  993M   0% /dev
tmpfs                   1001M     0 1001M   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs                   1001M  412K 1001M   1% /run
tmpfs                   1001M     0 1001M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/mapper/fedora-root  3.1G  749M  2.4G  24% /
tmpfs                   1001M  4.0K 1001M   1% /tmp
/dev/vda1                477M   79M  369M  18% /boot
tmpfs                    201M     0  201M   0% /run/user/0
[root at localhost ~]# dnf list installed | wc -l
272
[root at localhost ~]# dnf list installed | fpaste
-bash: fpaste: command not found
[root at localhost ~]# free -m
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache 
available
Mem:           2001          80        1645           0         274 
    1876
Swap:           411           0         411
[root at localhost ~]#

And from the Fedora Server install:

[root at localhost ~]# df -lh
Filesystem               Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs                 991M     0  991M   0% /dev
tmpfs                   1001M     0 1001M   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs                   1001M  464K 1001M   1% /run
tmpfs                   1001M     0 1001M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/mapper/fedora-root  3.1G  1.2G  2.0G  37% /
tmpfs                   1001M  4.0K 1001M   1% /tmp
/dev/vda1                477M   96M  352M  22% /boot
tmpfs                    201M     0  201M   0% /run/user/0
[root at localhost ~]# dnf list installed | wc -l
605
[root at localhost ~]# dnf list installed | fpaste
Uploading (50.4KiB)...
WARNING: Could not shorten URL
http://paste.fedoraproject.org/290874/63302514
[root at localhost ~]# free -m
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache 
available
Mem:           2001          96        1532           0         372 
    1858
Swap:           411           0         411
[root at localhost ~]#

-- 
Dan Mossor, RHCSA
Systems Engineer
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