[Fedora-spins] Where are the remaining F19 spins?

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:32:11 -0400
Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> wrote:

> (bringing back an old thread)
> 
> Dennis Gilmore (dennis at ausil.us) said: 
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> > On Sun, 12 May 2013 17:56:20 +0200
> > Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > back in April we discussed the F19 spins and it was widely agreed
> > > that http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/Spins is the
> > > canonical list of approved spins that need to be produced.
> > > However this doesn't seem to be the case, I only see the desktop
> > > spins. In fact, that is not even true given that I cannot find
> > > MATE either.
> > > 
> > > What does the spins SIG need to do in order to get the remaining
> > > spins?
> > 
> > We have for the last few releases composed the 5 main desktop spins
> > Gnome, KDE, LXDE, XFCE and SoaS for Alpha and Beta and in theory
> > nightlies have been used for QA. before making the 5 we only made
> > KDE and Gnome. QA has not been really happening as is evidenced by
> > spins regularly failing to compose, and being shipped DOA, as in the
> > design-Suite in F18 and Games being dropped for failing to compose.
> > I personally fixed a bunch of spins in F17. 
> > 
> > For Fedora 19 I'm planning to only compose those 5 for GA also and I
> > will only be shipping them if they have been tested and signed off
> > by at least 3 people as working.  This is due to Spins having been
> > shipped broken in the past. I think we need to stop pretending
> > there is a spins SIG as its not been functional or working for a
> > few years. 
> 
> Functional or not, has this been widely disseminated?
> 
> - Are all the spin maintainers aware?
> - Is the websites team that builds and maintains spins.fp.o aware, and
>   ready to handle only updating some of the spins listed there?
> - Is it in the release notes?
> etc.
> 
> It's a very large change to drop five deliverables, obviously.
> 
> Bill
websites are aware, spin maintainers were notified via the spins list,
no objections have been raised. not sure if its in the release notes.

Dennis

> 
> > 
> > Perhaps the question we really need to ask is how should we deploy
> > and install Fedora, Which is not something we can change or solve
> > for f19 or probably even f20.  An idea that comes to mind is to
> > have package selections and post install config tasks ship as
> > kickstart snippets with the DVD.  we then use grub/syslinux to
> > present a menu to the users to have different frameworks that
> > resemble the spins the kickstart is fed to anaconda then at boot
> > time or anaconda gives you the option to select them. 
> > 
> > Dennis
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