whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net
Sun Aug 3 15:16:44 UTC 2003
Michael Young said:
> On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 20:40, William Hooper wrote:
>> Michael Young said:
>> > I'm tired of hearing "it's not supported." I didn't ask for "support,"
>> > just asked why the updates for Severn weren't available from RHN,
>> > the updates for Taroon are. And, so far, I received an answer from
>> > everyone but a Red Hat employee (well, not everyone, but you get the
>> > point).
>> I think you missed the part when we asked "what updates"?
> Hmmm... I think this bothers me the same as "it's not supported." Tell
> me there haven't been any updated packages for the beta release, can
Have there been absolutely zero? No. Have there been many? No. Have
they been timely? No. As someone else pointed out, betas are for
testing. Testing a moving target (releasing updates instead of waiting
for the next ISO) is much harder.
>> > I am also concerned that I will not be able to use the remainder of my
>> > subscription on the next release of RHL. That would force me to keep
>> > systems at RH9, or quit using my entitlements, which will cost me
>> As others pointed out your RHN subscription is not tied to either that
>> particular machine or that particular release. It is based entirely on
>> time. If you keep your subscription paid up you could continue to use
>> on every release (note I said release, not beta) that comes out.
> With the RHLP, what guarantee do I have that those releases will have
> channels on RHN? "It's a community project, and it's unsupported,"
> remember? I guess if I want the warm fuzzy feeling, I will have to
> purchase RHEL-WS.
Unfortunately the FAQ isn't accessible right now, but it was there:
"Unsupported" means you have no service level agreement, and no one on
call to help you. If you need these things, then yes go with RHEL-WS.
>> > I guess I will re-install my "supported" product, quit making an
>> > to contribute to the community, and go on about my business...
>> If your main concern is not being able to use your subscription on betas
>> in between releases, then by all means go ahead. If you are interested
>> seeing what direction the RHLP is going, and possibly make the next
>> release better, then run the betas.
>> Why don't you just let one of your subscriptions run out and have one
>> machine on the release and one on the newest beta?
> Because I don't always run betas, and I like having an entitlement for
> each machine. Not to mention it sends a few $$ a year to Red Hat.
>From that statement, I don't understand you complaint earlier about
"wasting money" because there are no updates in RHN for the beta.
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