RH Decisions (was Re: APT, Yum and Red Carpet)

[Jef Spaleta]

Kyle Maxwell wrote:
>But some decisions are starting to leave me in the cold

Err..well...i'm going to give red hat a pretty long lead time on when I
expect them to get this whole external communication thing close to the
right ballpark.  I'm not prepared to read anything sinister into why rhl
is down or whatever.Hell I'm shocked it had as much information as it
did for the 3.2 days it was up (almost like they knew what they were
getting into...they know better now i think :->). But if a significant
amount of discussion was generated by the "right" people during those
3.2 days, enough to make a significant portion of that written material
inconsistant with bleeding edge ideas...then I say its better to pull
the site down..better no info than misleading info.  The keys to the
kingdom haven't changed hands yet....i'd rather see some significant
fits and starts early on...than a big badass policy gotcha later.

Beginnings are hard...this shift towards rhl-"the project" is going to
probably need a significant honeymoon window where users and
developers..especially the more fervent ones...are going to have to
allow for some really bone-headed obvious mistakes from people who live
on that corporate side of the fence.  I have no expectation that this is
going to be a smooth transition during this beta phase. Consider this a
proto-project phase....or maybe it would be best to call the project
concept alpha level...where the project framework isn't stable enough to
make it worth professional documentation. I fervently hope that the
machinery for this "project" will be in place by the end of this beta
phase. 

I've beat the trademark dead horse only because its an existing policy
that red hat's to make sure is updated to make sense in terms of the
lack of boxsets in the upcoming release. A lot of the other issues that
people seem to have with red hat right now on how to effectively
communicate with the community are new issues that need new policy...
and i get the feeling the hatters didn't shine the flashlight that far
ahead when taking that first step towards the project concept.  This
isn't going to be a linear progression from closed to open...consider
the loss of rhl site as the first coffeetable red hat stumbled into and
had to backup to step around while groping for a plan.  Luckily I don't
have to worry about production systems. But as it stands...is anything
all that different than a year ago when it comes to deciding if you were
going to deploy the next red hat release (other than the lack of boxsets
and the oem issues that causes)? I think it helps to think of this beta
as still a traditional beta....the community project still needs a lot
of flushing out...as a concept its alpha. I can just imagine how much
internal discussion is being generated....and I can only hope the
hatters show as good a sense of knowing how to schedule a "release" of
the project framework as they do about pushing out distro releases.

-jef"i love it when a plan comes together...now...if we only had a
plan...though I'd settle for a plan for making a plan"spaleta
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