no ... *really* ... any ETA for updated beta?

[Féliciano Matias]

Le ven 29/08/2003 à 02:53, Michael Schwendt a écrit : 
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> On 29 Aug 2003 01:44:55 +0200, Féliciano Matias wrote:
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> > Beta2 release date is not the point.
> > What i don't like, is when RedHat says something and doesn't seem to do
> > it.
> > This hurt the RedHat brand image.
> > 
> > RedHat claim to open the RHLP process but don't like some questions
> > about this process. That's the problem.
> > 
> > RedHat update http://rhl.redhat.com/ and everything is nice now.
> 
> You would also find reasons to complain if the initial content was
> still there after a few weeks with the RHLP not proceeding at the pace
> expected by you. Do you expect wonders? It takes time -- much time --
> to complete wonders, especially during a beta cycle -- no, two beta
> cycles even. And it doesn't look like you realize that.
> 
> Another thing is the difference between "rough plans" and "claims".
> I'm sure that updated web pages will try to avoid misunderstandings in
> several places with regard to Red Hat's plans. IMO, the initial
> content at rhl.redhat.com was not detailed/complete enough to answer
> all specific questions, such as what parts of the development were
> planned to be opened when and at which level.
> 
> If you consider yourself a potential contributor or just someone who
> is interested in following the RHLP, the most natural thing to do is
> to participate in the beta program and don't lose contact with
> development.
> 
> Btw, I would not assume that a few users who bug Red Hat employees
> continously with regard to the stalled rhl.redhat.com site are the
> primary reason for today's update of the web pages.

My intent is not to "bug" RedHat employees. I give my feeling.
I have a lot of respect for RedHat.
I don't want to "destroy" RedHat. I use RedHat Linux from long time
because it is the best distribution from my point of view and RedHat is
also the best contributor to the free software. Here we use RHL and we
plan to buy some RHEL 3.0 ES (good product, 5 years support, not so
expensive, and all RedHat profits will be back to free software).


> That minor update doesn't change anything.

Yes and no.
At some point i can think it doesn't change anything. But RHLP is now
(or it is going to be) an open project. RHLP (will) interact with a
community and a +clear+ communication is important.

This page is not for people familiar with RedHat. I trust RedHat about
RHLP goals because i know RedHat.
But think about new comers. I someone tell me "What's going on in RHLP
front ?" i can answer with "they are rethinking some of their initial
plans because, among other things, they want to incorporate community
suggestions and feedback. Come back September 15th at rhl.redhat.com
website for more informations".

This is better than "search through the mailing-list, new informations
will append at some point not already known, and don't ask RedHat
employees, that "bug" them".

>  It only asks you to
> practice in patience for some additional time. And even if two third
> of September 15th passed away without another update, please be
> patient.
> 
> 


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Féliciano Matias <feliciano.matias at free.fr>
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