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>    1. Re: Mono (Paul)
>    2. Re: rpm -e problem (Nico Kadel-Garcia)
>    3. Latest updares problems (Bart Kalita)
>    4. Re: Latest updares problems (Jeff Spaleta)
>    5. FC3 T1 DVD-RAM Support (Si)
>    6. kdeartwork-icons-3.2.3-1 problem (raxet)
>    7. wrong int level running kernel-2.6.7-1.509 (5 instead of 3) -
>       mDNSResponder? (Jim Cornette)
>    8. Installing kernel-2.6.7-1.517 - tux.ko warning (Jim Cornette)
>    9. mailman installation issue? (Michael Wiktowy)
>   10. Re: wrong int level running kernel-2.6.7-1.509 (5 instead of
>       3) (Jim Cornette)
>   11. Fedora rawhide breaks cedega point2play on x86_64 (Marshall Lewis)
>   12. Re: Mono (Colin Charles)
>   13. Re: logwatch mesgs about crond (Harry Putnam)
>   14. Good work on KDE3.3 so quick (Andy Green)
>   15. 517 kernel panic (Paul)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:48:52 +0100
> From: Paul <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Mono
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>         <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1092415732.5538.2.camel at T7.linux>
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> > PS: I think you sent it to the wrong list (?)
> 
> Possibly - though quite a lot of FC folks use mono, it can be considered
> on topic?
> 
> TTFN
> 
> Paul
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:29:27 -0400
> From: "Nico Kadel-Garcia" <nkadel at merl.com>
> Subject: Re: rpm -e problem
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases"
>         <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
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> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Cornette" <fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases"
> <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:10 PM
> Subject: Re: rpm -e problem
> 
> > Mike Jensen wrote:
> > > as far as i know that package doesn't exist....iiimf-le-xcin does
> > > however....not sure if that is what you were trying to remove?  it might
> have
> > > been getting confused because there are several packages like that that
> come
> > > with fedora....on core 2 with a full install you get:
> > > iiimf-le-inpinyin-0.3-2
> > > iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-client-lib-devel-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-server-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-docs-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-x-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.5-1
> > > iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > > iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.1.svn1587
> > >
> > >
> > > if this dosen't help let me know, might be way off track
> > > On Thursday 12 August 2004 17:47, Paul wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>Something odd has happened on the laptop.
> > >>
> > >>I'm trying to do an update via yum and am getting a pile of problems
> > >>with iiimf packages. I don't use iiimf, so there is no harm in removing
> > >>it.
> > >>
> > >>However, rpm -e iiimf-lib-xcin (say) generates the following error
> > >>
> > >>'iiimf-lib-xcin' specifies multiple packages
> 
> If you do "rpm -q xiimf-lib-xcin" you should get the names of all the
> packages. If they have different numbers, you can delete the old one, or
> better yet select the newest version of the software and use
> "rpm -Uvvv --replacepkgs iiimf-lib-xcin-[whatever].rpm" to update it while
> replacing all old copies of the package.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:26:23 +0100
> From: Bart Kalita <bartk at clara.co.uk>
> Subject: Latest updares problems
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1092425183.3294.19.camel at nexus.astradine.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Well, my first post about this problem was ignored so I've decided to
> repost it + add some more problems to it.
> 
> First of all after clean install of FC3 test 1 I've updated the system
> via yum, at this time the sound in gnome was working just fine.
> 
> dropped down from kernel -517 to -515, mkinitrd doesn't work ..comes up
> with command not found"
> 
> installed newest Nvidia drivers and rebooted to KDE ... no sound!
> 
> re-logging as root or as user in Gnome or KDE makes no difference still
> no sound. I can make the speakers make a sound when I'm muting sound via
> Kmix, all I hear is the crackling "on-off" sound
> 
> apart form this in KDE the conqueror window keeps crashing every 2-5 sec
> after opening.
> 
> Another thing, where in new KDE can I stop my monitor form switching
> off? all there is in power management is laptop power ..I'm not on
> laptop I want my monitor and my HD's to work!..and I do now want to hard
> reset my FC box when I come back after more than an hour.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:47:12 -0400
> From: Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Latest updares problems
> To: bartk at clara.co.uk, For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>         <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <604aa79104081312472909f062 at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:26:23 +0100, Bart Kalita <bartk at clara.co.uk> wrote:
> > Well, my first post about this problem was ignored so I've decided to
> > repost it + add some more problems to it.
> 
> This post is not very useful because it doesn't convey enough
> information for any other testers to compare with you and your
> hardware. And your methodology for troubleshooting isn't exceptionally
> linear which is a problem if you want people to trace your steps and
> compare with what you see. What you want to do is make it as easy as
> possible for people in the list to compare notes with you. So that
> means detail specifics about hardware that you think is important (in
> the case of sound at a minimum that means the sound card)
> It also means doing as much as you can to isolate each problem before
> you ask people for help with them.  Reporting a whole list of problems
> that might or might not have shown up after you tried to fix other
> things, doesn't help other people help you confirm a specific problem.
>  Help me, help you.
> 
> > dropped down from kernel -517 to -515, mkinitrd doesn't work ..comes up
> > with command not found"
> 
> So... you dropped back. Now thats a potential problem right there. You
> have not told us that sound was workingin in -515 ever. If sound
> worked in -517 but doesnt work in -515.. this is a non-issue. Going
> back to older versions of development packages to troubleshoot a new
> problem, like the mkinitrd issues right now, is a valid methodoloty.
> But you have to expect other things to break unexpectedly if you use
> an older development package. If -517 introduced fixes for sound, you
> lost them when moving back to -515.
> 
> And its very important to isolate issues when communicating them to
> others for troubleshooting or comparison. If something you did to work
> around the mkinitrd problem caused the sound problem to appear, that
> confuses things greatly, and its not necessarily worth anyone's time
> to troubleshoot, if the sound problem appears only when you use an
> older development kernel. Well, unless they are bug historians.
> 
> > installed newest Nvidia drivers and rebooted to KDE ... no sound!
> 
> the nvidia video drivers?  Thats also a problem. While you might get
> people to compare notes with you about your experience with the nvidia
> video drivers... ANY problems that only appear when the nvidia drivers
> are installed are beyond the scope of what any fedora developers can
> fix.
> 
> -jef
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:09:34 +0100
> From: Si <si at bananas.hopto.org>
> Subject: FC3 T1 DVD-RAM Support
> To: Fedora Test List <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1092427774.3815.1.camel at apple.bananas.hopto.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Just to let you know that the LG 4120B worked perfectly as DVD-RAM.
> 
> Just did mkfs.ext2, then mounted it and backed up...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Simon
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:35:11 -0600
> From: raxet <maxer1 at xmission.com>
> Subject: kdeartwork-icons-3.2.3-1 problem
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>         <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <411D25FF.9040109 at xmission.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Running latest dev from today with yum update :
> 
> Errors reported doing trial run
> file /usr/share/icons/locolor/16x16/apps/kbabel.png from install of
> kdesdk-3.3.0-0.1.rc2 conflicts with file from package
> kdeartwork-icons-3.2.3-1
> file /usr/share/icons/locolor/32x32/apps/kbabel.png from install of
> kdesdk-3.3.0-0.1.rc2 conflicts with file from package
> kdeartwork-icons-3.2.3-1
> 
> rpm -e kdeartwork-icons :)
> 
> RaXeT
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:36:50 -0400
> From: Jim Cornette <fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: wrong int level running kernel-2.6.7-1.509 (5 instead of 3) -
>         mDNSResponder?
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>         <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <411D5092.3010800 at sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> I have the below listed in my grub.conf file and normally the computer
> boots up into 3 as desired.
> 
> title Fedora Core (2.6.7-1.509)
>          root (hd1,4)
>          kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.7-1.509 ro root=LABEL=/1 acpi=on 3
>          initrd /initrd-2.6.7-1.509.img
> 
> Today it booted up into level 5 unexpectedly. Also there were strange
> messages related to ssh in the log files.
> 
> Aug 13 17:46:13 cornette-fc2 sshd: sshd -TERM succeeded
> Aug 13 17:46:17 cornette-fc2 sshd:  succeeded
> Aug 13 17:57:33 cornette-fc2 cups: cupsd shutdown succeeded
> Aug 13 17:57:50 cornette-fc2 cups: cupsd startup succeeded
> Aug 13 17:58:10 cornette-fc2 messagebus: messagebus -TERM succeeded
> Aug 13 17:58:16 cornette-fc2 messagebus: messagebus startup succeeded
> Aug 13 18:00:54 cornette-fc2 mDNSResponder: mDNSResponder shutdown succeeded
> Aug 13 18:00:57 cornette-fc2 mDNSResponder: mDNSResponder startup succeeded
> 
> What is the mDNSResponder? I do not remember such a program before. I
> was wondering if this would cause the strange reaction to the init level.
> 
> DESCRIPTION
> The  mDNSResponder daemon publishes and browses available services on a
> link according to the IETF Zeronconf (aka "Rendezvous") draft standard.
>   Only  one  instance  of  mDNSResponder  needs  to  run  on a host.
> Once  started, mDNSResponder runs continuously.
> 
> Jim
> 
> --
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:48:47 -0400
> From: Jim Cornette <fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Installing kernel-2.6.7-1.517 - tux.ko warning
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>         <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <411D535F.5000203 at sbcglobal.net>
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> 
> I got the below message when trying to install kernel-2.6.7-1.517
> It finally installed before installing the newer mkinitrd program.
> 
> What is this warning in reference to?
> 
> Jim
> 
> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.517/kernel/net/tux/tux.ko needs unknown
> symbol chroot
> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.517/kernel/net/tux/tux.ko needs unknown
> symbol write
> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.517/kernel/net/tux/tux.ko needs unknown
> symbol chdir
> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.517/kernel/net/tux/tux.ko needs unknown
> symbol read
> 
> --
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:18:33 -0400
> From: Michael Wiktowy <mwiktowy at gmx.net>
> Subject: mailman installation issue?
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1092442713.3234.4.camel at localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> During today's large yum update I got this message:
> 
> mailman 100 % done 53/117
> You (mailman) are not allowed to use this program (crontab)
> See crontab(1) for more information
> 
> I see there is a mailman script in /etc/cron.d/ but is this error
> indicating that something in the install script got blocked and will
> prevent normal mailman maintenance in the future?
> 
> /Mike
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:22:26 -0400
> From: Jim Cornette <fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: wrong int level running kernel-2.6.7-1.509 (5 instead of
>         3)
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>         <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <411D6952.8080603 at sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Jim Cornette wrote:
> > I have the below listed in my grub.conf file and normally the computer
> > boots up into 3 as desired.
> >
> > title Fedora Core (2.6.7-1.509)
> >         root (hd1,4)
> >         kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.7-1.509 ro root=LABEL=/1 acpi=on 3
> >         initrd /initrd-2.6.7-1.509.img
> >
> > Today it booted up into level 5 unexpectedly.
> 
> I tried this out again and it booted up into runlevel 5 again. I then
> changed inittab to keep runlevel 3. Before it was set to 5, but did not
> give me problems booting into the wrong runlevel.
> 
> With inittab set to 3, the system boots up into runlevel 3 properly.
> 
> Is there some change with the kernel arguments? I was wondering if my
> problem would be caused by the same change that the kernel panic, when
> rhgb quiet is in the grub.conf arguments.
> 
> Just a curiousity.
> 
> Jim
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:24:01 -0400
> From: Marshall Lewis <marshall at novafoundry.com>
> Subject: Fedora rawhide breaks cedega point2play on x86_64
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1092446641.8603.13.camel at grendel>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hello, this is a pretty minor complaint, but I thought I'd forward it
> along to the list in case it indicates a more serious problem somewhere.
> 
> For those that don't know, Point2Play is a python application by
> Transgaming that is used as a gui to install and launch games with
> Cedega (formerly Winex).
> 
> --
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:26:38 +1000
> From: Colin Charles <byte at aeon.com.my>
> Subject: Re: Mono
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>         <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Cc: mono-devel <mono-devel-list at lists.ximian.com>
> Message-ID: <1092446798.3252.46.camel at albus.aeon.com.my>
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> 
> On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 19:29, PFJ wrote:
> 
> > 1. Is there a simple to understand howto on repackaging rpms?
> 
> The spec files are online, make use of them, and rebuild your own
> packages from source
> (of course, setup a sane RPM build enviornment first)
> 
> > 2. What do I need to do to set up a yum repository?
> 
> Have some webspace. Build packages. Put them in directory. Run yum-arch
> on directory. Serve!
> --
> Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my
> http://www.bytebot.net/
> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
> then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi
> 
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> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:00:22 -0500
> From: Harry Putnam <reader at newsguy.com>
> Subject: Re: logwatch mesgs about crond
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <m3hdr6wkax.fsf at newsguy.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Alexander Dalloz <alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de> writes:
> 
> > You have a cronjob running with which user reader logs in automatically.
> > The secure log entries are caused by /etc/pam.d/system-auth:
> 
> Yikes, this isn't a cronjob I setup.  Or at least I have setup none
> that involve a login of any kind.  Further all my cronjobs have been
> around for ages.
> 
> What kind of cron job would need a login?
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 09:42:11 +0100
> From: Andy Green <fedora at warmcat.com>
> Subject: Good work on KDE3.3 so quick
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>         <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200408140942.16163.fedora at warmcat.com>
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> Mmmmm!!!  KDE3.3, many improvements, in rawhide real quick.  Good work!
> 
> - -Andy
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 10:05:06 +0100
> From: Paul <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk>
> Subject: 517 kernel panic
> To: fedora <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1092474306.4328.2.camel at T7.linux>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I know it's been discussed on here, but for the life of me, I can't
> remember what the resolution of it was!
> 
> Is there a way to stop the kernel panic on the current version in
> rawhide (2.6.7-1.517)? It always panics when trying to mount ext3
> drives.
> 
> TTFN
> 
> Paul
> --
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