fedora-test-list digest, Vol 1 #546 - 33 msgs

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Tue Feb 17 23:03:42 UTC 2004


On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 00:42, fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com wrote:
> Message: 6
> Subject: Re: FC2 First Impressions (Nautilus, Sound and Evolution)
> From: Douglas Furlong <douglas.furlong at firebox.com>
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:55:10 +0000
> Reply-To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> 
> On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 19:37, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 01:29:01AM -0500, Hoyt wrote:
> > > On Monday 16 February 2004 12:39 am, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > > > Try unmuting it/turning up the volume - ALSA starts muted by default.
> > > 
> > > Is there a valid reason for that? It seems that perhaps _some_ volume 
> > > initially would help avoid unnecessary help requests. I would not think that 
> > > starting muted would be a generally recognized assumption: 
> > 
> > Because a system without a user shoudln't make a beep (IMO), and each user
> > has its idea of a right volume and his desktop environment should restore it
> > on login.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Luciano Rocha
> This is an excellent point that should not be over looked.
> 
> However, when we install fedora we have numerous options, Desktop,
> Workstation, Server, Custom.
> 
> In which case what is to stop the install being customised so that
> Desktop/Workstation machines have ALSA's volume turned up. The server
> install to be muted.
> 
> I think it would be fair to assume that some one doing a custom install
> should be slightly more technically literate and being able to work it
> out for them selves (even if it IS still a right royal pain in the
> arse).
> 
> Doug
> 
If it is just a server then why has it got a sound card at all?
If it is just a server then why has all this KDE/Gnome stuff been installed
at all?
I have never built a server with a sound card in it.

Honestly the Spock like 'logic' of this strikes me as ivory tower impractical.
Do you buy a car & expect the tyres to be flat by default?

Maybe in order to please this line of logic, it's not so hard to compromise:
1. mute sound for a server only install AND place a warning dialogue on screen.
2. NOT mute sound for a workstation install.

Chris
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