Java and Fedora

[Jean Francois Martinez]

The vendor assumes you are an admin ie the ONE person between N who is
doing system administration  and that means that he can spend
a lot of time studying because at organization level it is only a small
overhead.

For a personal computer it  is one person between one and that means
that any time spent on study and work on system administration detracts
directly from real work.  That means that the user will have little time
for it and cannot develop expertise.  If he tries then he will not doing
real work.


On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 00:21, Thomas Dodd wrote:
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> stephan schutter wrote:
> | Because the vendor assumes that you are a UNIX admin, and want to do
> | everything yourself... It is like distributing Windows programs and
> | expecting the user to go and edit the registry by hand to make the program
> | start. --it is insane.
> 
> For a personal machine you are the admin, just as you are in Windoze.
> 
> Imagine having a program that only works if you install it in a certian
> directory and that must replace system librarys (DLLs) with particular
> version( but that version might break some other app you use). That's
> insane.
> 
> Oh wait, that describes most Windoze software. (Try installing to a
> drive other than C: because it's full. Oops, you still need 150MB on
> drive C:. Ok remove some old app you no longer use. Now It doen't work
> quite right. Been there done that. Won't do it again.)
> 
> | Making a symlink in the /bin folder pointing to the Java executable worked
> | for me... This seems a lot simpler and global than fiddling with paths and
> | variables...
> 
> And a lot harder to revert later if you need to. Using systematic
> methods like /etc/profile.d are muche easier to deal with.
> 1) the package lists the file in /etc/profile.d as belonginging to it
> 2) the file can contain comments to make it obvious what package it
> belongs to and what the settings there do
> 3) that tells users how to customize those setting if they want/need to.
> 
> Try that with M$ Windoze and the registry.
> 
> Here's one: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Java VM\Security
> 
> ValueName=EditCustomPermissions
> ValueData=00 00 00 00
> 
> What is that for? What do different values mean there?
> 
> How do I set a custom CLASS_PATH that is always used when I run java dut
> doesn't affect others that use the machine? I don't think
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE_Software\Microsoft\Java VM\Classpath would do it.
> but there is no indication that I coud set
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Java VM\Classpath to do it. Would
> it be saved across logins? Would it append or replace the value from
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE?
> 
> At least I know that changing the variable in linux will 1) work,
> replace the old value, and not last across logins unless I set it with
> my user startup scripts.
> 
> 	-Thomas
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Jean Francois Martinez <jfm512 at free.fr>