Where is Cyrus-Imapd

[Roger Grosswiler]

Paul Iadonisi schrieb:
> On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 17:58 -0700, Florin Andrei wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 07:52 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote:
>>
>>
>>>BUT: I found cyrus-imapd neither in core nor in extras!
>>
>><sigh> An excellent IMAP server which solves the problem of server-side
>>filtering in an elegant fashion and can handle extreme loads, and it's
>>excluded from the distro.
>>
>><shakes head in disbelief>
> 
> 
>   Awe, come on now.  I'm a cyrus-imapd bigot.  I LOVE cyrus-imapd,
> despite some of it's (relatively minor, IMO) peculiarities.  But even I
> understand (and frankly, agree with) it being excluded.  Cyrus-imapd is
> a complex beast.  Not on the level of Oracle, but when combined with all
> the components that make it the most useful (ldap, a web gui config
> tool, kerberos or hashed secrets, etc.) it comes close to MS Exchange,
> but makes you feel a lot less...*shudder*...dirty.  (Yes, I know -- no
> integrated calendar.)
>   Dovecot was introduced to rid the distro uw-imap (thankfully) and
> fills that role quite nicely (from what I've heard...I don't actually
> USE it).  How do you configure cyrus-imapd to work with system accounts
> *out of the box* without any extra steps for the system administrator
> when adding accounts?  It's probably doable, but just too darn complex
> and possibly a maintenance nightmare.
>   I prefer a sealed mail server with multi-domain capability, so will
> likely always stick to cyrus-imapd, even if I have to revert to Simon
> Mater's (excellent) rpms like I did before it was included in the
> distro.  No big deal, really.
>   It seems to me that cyrus-imapd is most suitable for extras.  I hope
> that that does happen.  If no one picks it up (but it sounds like
> someone else might), then I might still consider being the maintainer,
> but I really don't think it's a big loss for Core.  It's specialized
> enough (and independent enough -- i.e.: nothing depends on it), that
> adding it doesn't cause much pain.
> 
First, i agree with both of you. But at least, cyrus-imapd has to be 
installable via extras - just that is goes not forgotten. Thanks to 
Simon, he always lays actual Versions on their homepage, if they are no 
longer in extras (in fact, at least they are reachable via ftp on redhat 
-servers now)

I think dovecot is a good alternative - but i prefer blackboxes too. And 
what made me happy (in my home-environment) it worked out of the box. 
All i had to change was MECH=pam in /etc/sysconfig/saslauthd, starting 
saslauthd and cyrus and this thing worked. *scary* remembering the 
times, compiling cyrus hours and hours...

Even for systems like FC, where you find an update-rhythm of half a 
year, migration of cyrus-imapd takes 10 minutes after istallation in the 
new version. Just copy /var/spool/imap and /var/lib/imap to the new 
location, start cyrus - this worked always, without losing e-mails. This 
made even backups easier!


Roger