replies on msgs #7 & #15 re firefox/tbird troubles

[Mickey Stein]

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>Message: 7
>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:21:53 -0500
>From: Brian Millett <bmillett at gmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Fedora Core 4 Test Update
>To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
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>After todays test update of thunderbird & firefox, I have lost the text
>for both.  All that shows up is the "_" under the menu items.  All text
>in the display is also blank.  Had to fire up evolution to post this  :-( 
>Any idea where to look?
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>I've rolled back a rev and that did not change anything.  Mozilla works
>just fine.
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>Thanks.
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>Brian Millett - [ Sinclair (re: the Minbari), "The Gathering"]
>"We didn't stop them, they stopped themselves and I wish to hell I knew
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A number of us had this (almost identical) problem around 22-Jun-05. 
Check out the bugzilla entry here:
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=161374 -

I don't think the 'cure' for 161374 was the exact solution, just one of 
a few possibles. At that time, we'd also (as this time) updated gtk2* 
which, if rolled back one version, would cause the text to become 
visible again. And I know that someone further down couldn't reproduce 
it this time, but I could reproduce it. I just moved along to deer-park 
which didn't have the bad interaction.  Anyway, the bug, which was 
"solved" by the next version of firefox, also was the period where the 
'cairo' package was introduced as a dependency of gtk2 (at least I think 
that's what was going on).  There was more than one 'temporary' fix for 
the problem and you can see those in the bug.

>Message: 15
>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:25:37 -0400
>From: Robert Couture <rpa4email at rogers.com>
>Subject: Re: Crash of Firefox in Rawhide
>To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
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>On Tuesday 19 July 2005 15:24, Guo Yang wrote:
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>>>  Hello everybody, I am just wondering if anybody else has the same
>>>  problem as me. If it is, I am going to file a bug report.
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>>>  When I am trying to download the PDF file in this page:
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>>>  http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0310077,
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>>>  the firefox crashes. The package I downloaded from mozilla.org doesn't
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>I have been having quite a number of crashes with FireFox lately.  Clicking on 
>dialogue boxes has been causing no end of crashes.  I am trying to pinpoint 
>why it is happening.
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>I was using a non-standard theme in KDE (meaning not included with Rawhide) so 
>that may be the reason.)
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>Robert.
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Same here, Robert: I'm in bugzilla right now and trying to see if this 
has been bugged. I'll bug it if I can't find something like it. If I can 
recall this, it started about 1 week ago on rawhide, coinciding with 
another release of gtk2, but since I'd also updated my java sdk that day 
(from Sun's site), there's probably too many variables to pin it on 
anything yet.

The thing I've noticed is that running it from the shell (firebird, 
tbird, or mozilla) will cause it to appear to be more stable. The 
symptoms for me are : It crashes (without any printing of an error if 
launched from shell or straced) merely by my doing something like a 
"Help/about firefox" or "Create filter from message" or any dialog box 
and clicking any choice on the dialog including the close-window X in 
the right top corner. Since I can only get FF, TB and Mozilla to act 
this way, I can't help but think that its something unique to them. 
Gtk2? Cairo? Beats me.

Hopefully a bug will be there, or I'll put one up, but it'll be kind of 
vague. Mozilla wasn't updated at all (by me) in this time period and 
started crashing along with the other 2.