FC5 T2

[n0dalus]

On 1/16/06, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For test releases i do not bother.... I just laugh at people for
> getting themselves into trouble. There is an assumed risked with test
> releases... and since the development tree unfreezes and has updates
> before the test release goes out.. its not really a big deal... if a
> test release slips.
>
> For final releases... leaks are a REAL problem for the unsuspecting
> userbase.. simply because zero-day updates to fix bugs are typically
> not available before the official release date. This is a HUGE
> problem, because the meatheads who are broadcasting the leaked isos or
> torrent tickets makes absolutely no effort to communicate to other
> people that those urls are unofficial and the update trees do not get
> content before the official release date.
>
> Now you take this fact together with the fact that releases ALWAYS
> slip... and you ALWAYS find your self in a situation right before the
> official release where you have interested, but novice, users who is
> using an old release schedule date as the basis for looking for a
> release. They bump into the oh-so-clever iso spawn campers in #fedora
> and they are handed a leaked iso address without being told that
> updates aren't available yet. This is highly inappropriate and leaves
> unsuspecting users in a situations where they will be required to live
> with zero-day problems for several days until the update tree is
> populated on the official release date.  The people who hand out the
> leaked urls in public forums are not acting in the best interest of
> the userbase at-large and are just clever little punks with way too
> much time on their hands.
>

An easy solution to this whole problem would be to:
As soon as the official ISOs are built, start releasing updates.

I don't know how much more difficult it would be in practice, but I
think it wouldn't be that much more work (maybe less); you're going to
have to update it all eventually anyway.

Alternatively, we could have Anaconda show a message after the
timezone selection screen if it detects it being before the release
date:

"Warning:
The clock on this computer is set to <date>, which is before the
official release time of Fedora Core X at <date>. Please note that
updates for this release will not be available until that time."

Ugly yes, but it could be integrated nicely into the layout so as not
to hinder the installation at all.

I would still prefer just having updates start coming out as soon as it's built.

n0dalus.