Announcing Fedora 11 Alpha (blink)
pocallaghan at gmail.com
Tue Feb 10 22:01:08 UTC 2009
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 13:10 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 12:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 11:43 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > > But nooooo. Gotta keep having VTs so we can recover when X screws up.
> > > I mean, it's the unix way. Which apparently means designing failure in
> > > from the start, and calling it a feature.
> > >
> > > This is a bad design. The panic button doesn't make it better, it just
> > > makes it okay to be even worse than the design requires. Take the
> > > training wheels off already.
> > Do you have an alternative suggestion?
> KMS. Move the setup and command submission bits of the driver into the
> kernel, so the kernel always has the wherewithal to kick the X server
> off the hardware. Run a new minimal display server on that, that isn't
> X, but that can host a nested X server. Audit the display server and
> kernel driver for correctness, which is now tractable since they're
> small and in the right places. Emulate VTs under this display server,
> and eviscerate most of the rest from the kernel.
I'd forgotten about KMS. It certainly sounds promising, but when are we
likely to see something useful? I know it's kind of supported on Intel
video, but I think not to the extent you mean here.
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