Where's Konqueror in SU

David dgboles at gmail.com
Wed Nov 4 15:57:07 UTC 2009


On 11/4/2009 8:46 AM, Karel Volný wrote:
> 
> ...
>> set by step volumes (tons?) of TFM
>>
>> 1:  login in as user.
>> 2:  as user open a terminal window
>> 3:  switch from the user to root using steps 3a and 3b
>> 3a: type   su - <enter>  at the prompt
>> 3b: enter root's password <enter>  at the prompt
>> 4:  type   konqueror & <enter>  (the & lets you keep the
>>  terminal)
> 
> how do I understand the original question, this step 4 didn't 
> work for the original inquirer; and still, he is unable to use 
> the alternative way via kdesu
> 
> and some said that it is okay that Konqueror can't be run as root
> 
> and you said "The point is, I believe, that to disable root is 
> considered a good thing."
> 
> so keep on topic and explain to me, how do I do step 3 if root is 
> disabled, and what is it good for?


What release of Fedora are you using? I ask because Dolphin is a
replacement file handler for Konqueror.

Another question. When you try to follow my instructions (above) are you
misspelling the name? I ask because konqueror is spelled just like that.
konqueror. All lower case letters. Since Linux is a case sensitive OS
the names 'konqueror' and 'Konqueror' are different. Several times you
have used the name with the capital 'K'. That won't work.

I ask because I use GNOME for my desktop and I had to install KDE, since
it was not installed, to check this. From a terminal the name

konqueror opens konqueror

the name Konqueror

fails with

[root] /root/Desktop # Konqueror&
bash: Konqueror: command not found
[1] 2076
[1]+  Exit 127                Konqueror
[root] /root/Desktop #

But like I said I think what you need to use is Dolphin. *AND* it is
spelled with all lower case letters too.  dolphin

And "root is disabled" is not true. The *GUI login* for root is disabled
but the root account is still there. It has to be there.


> oh, and if you are really bored, you can answer my previous 
> question that you have chosen to ignore in your reply - how are 
> the Windows related, when we are talking about doing 
> administrative tasks using the root account in Fedora, and not 
> about using the Administrator account to do daily tasks in 
> Windows?


Actually I did not answer because it does not really relate to *your*
major question.

I mentioned Windows because older versions, and newer ones that are
installed incorrectly, can be setup so that the user has Administrator
privileges when logged in. That allows any malware to run with full
access to the whole system. And you really don't want that. If, in
Linux, you run one application as 'root' (as I described) that is the
only place that malware can run. In that terminal. If you run the whole
system as root, a GUI login as root for example, you open the whole
system to malware.

Modern, and correctly, installed Windows has an Administrator and users.
Users are limited as to what they can do. Which is a good thing. And it
is also the better way to run your Linux system.


-- 


  David

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