2010-08-16 - Fedora QA meeting recap

[James Laska]

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100816

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):
      * jlaska (124)
      * adamw (45)
      * j_dulaney (34)
      * maxamillion (29)
      * nirik (18)
      * fenris02 (16)
      * kparal (14)
      * fcami (7)
      * ajax (7)
      * zodbot (6)
      * jskladan (4)
      * zaniyah (4)
      * jeff_hann (4)
      * wwoods (3)
      * jsmith (3)
      * vaschenb (1)

Unable to attend:
      * [[User:Liam|Liam]]
      * [[User:Rhe|Rhe]]
      * [[User:Newgle1|Newgle1]]

= Agenda =
      * Proposed meeting agenda -
        http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-August/092761.html 
      * MeetBot summary -
        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-08-16/fedora-qa.2010-08-16-15.00.html 

== Previous meeting follow-up ==
     1. jlaska to inquire how frequently boot.fp.org gets updated F-14
        install images
              * boot.fp.org uses branched install images on mirrors.
                These are generated nightly after the branch point.
     2. 621864 - jlaska to check-in with skvidal to see whether
        potential_conflict.py script updates are required for proper %
        ghost handling
              * http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=autoqa.git;a=commit;h=0d105afd9def5d76b7af0efb6dd6c11ef718f508
              * Thanks fcami and skvidal!
     3. 622058 - jlaska to ping mgracik for guidance on pending
        firstboot changes
              * martin and adamw coordinated on updated firstboot
                builds ... nice work gang

== F14 Alpha test milestones ==
Owner - adamwill, rhe
Summary
     1. F-14 Alpha RC#4 compose CD and DVD images are available for test
        (see https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3856)
     2. Alpha test results so far are positive
        (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_14_Alpha_RC_Test_Results)
     3. 1 blocker bug remains (see below)
Next steps...
     1. Continue posting test results ... testing still incomplete
              * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
              * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test
     2. Review blocker bugs
              * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/596985 - (MODIFIED) ''hang at
                start of X11 on fresh install from DVD'' -- discussion
                took place as to whether this issue was a blocker bug.
                Initial impression was that this issue is a valid alpha
                release blocker.  However, discussion continued after
                the meeting.  Stay tuned...

= Open discussion - <Your topic here> =

== Developing action plans for [[Updates_Lessons]] ==

Owner - nirik
Summary
      * I setup [[Updates_Lessons]] as part of implementing the boards
        updates vision thing. We talked today about looking at and
        learning from updates issues. Would it be reasonable to file a
        ticket with qa track anytime there is a new update issue and
        then discuss it in qa how to learn from or prevent it? or would
        you want fesco to discuss that kind of thing.
Next steps...
     1. nirik will raise topics in FESCO and reach out to stake-holders
        as needed (rel-eng, qa, devel, infrastructure etc...)
     2. jlaska to fiddle with the wiki page to provide a way to clearly
        identify the ''recommendation'' and ''tracking'' the
        implementation

== Nightly live composes ==
Owner - [[User:kparal|kparal]]
Summary
      * Viking-Ice raised the topic that nightly composes are probably
        not built from updates-testing repo
      * nirik confirmed that the nightly live images are based on
        dist-f14
Next steps...
     1. No next steps required at this time

= Action items =
     1. adamw and jlaska to propose artwork final release criteria
     2. adamw to update
        http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_updates to
        better describe the test experience on live images
     3. jlaska to update
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_User_Interface_Basic_Video_Driver so that it better captures the post-install xdriver=vesa expectations
     4. maxamillion update rel-eng TRAC#3860 to request RC#5
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