FC14: Odd yum results

Jesse Keating jkeating at redhat.com
Wed Aug 25 21:49:41 UTC 2010


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On 08/25/2010 02:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:29:57 -0700, Jesse wrote:
> 
>>>   Matthias Clasen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This has been bugging me. I wonder if there is something we can do to
>>>> speed up packages going from updates-candidate to updates-testing ? Will
>>>> we get this automated when autoqa takes effect ? 
>>>
>>> Another annoying effect is when stuff moves from testing to updates it doesn't
>>> always appear in the updates at the same time it is removed from testing.
>>> This pretty much always happens with the branched version as there really
>>> isn't an update repo and the stable rebuilds aren't sync'd to testing rebuilds.
>>
>> We (Fedora releng) have been discussing various ways to make this less
>> of an issue.  We haven't had any flashes of brilliance yet though.
> 
> Is it a lack of ideas or that the current software imposes hurdles?

A little of both.  The current software poses hurdles, and it's lack of
ideas to work around those hurdles without making significant change to
the software in question.

> 
> Packages moved from testing to stable would need some sort of
> "expiration date". A period of time they stay tagged with
> dist-*-updates-testing in addition to being tagged with dist-*-updates.
> 
> Untagging them from updates-testing and removing them from the repo
> way before they appear in the updates repo instead, is bad. It also
> causes broken dependencies temporarily. Those make testing less fun
> and lead to confusion when spending karma in bodhi.

The best idea we've come up with yet is to have bodhi /not/ untag a
build from dist-f??-updates-testing when it moves to stable, and instead
have the mash process that composes dist-f?? do the untagging, or use
something outside of either of those to periodically check packages in
dist-f14-updates-testing and dist-f14 and clean things out of
dist-f14-updates-testing that are on the public repo.


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Jesse Keating
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