Where is runlevel 5?
awilliam at redhat.com
Thu Aug 26 04:13:20 UTC 2010
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 23:13 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 08:02:45PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 21:18 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:02:54 -0400
> > > Matt McCutchen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Fedora 14 is using systemd as the init system, and it doesn't
> > > > honor /etc/inittab:
> > > >
> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626855
> > >
> > > http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/oss-happens.html
> > >
> > > Another example of the Vogon effect :-).
> > No, not really. It's not the Vogon effect. This is a very public, very
> > open project; the use of systemd has been discussed extensively on this
> > list, and on -test list, and is listed in the Alpha release notes - it's
> > the very first item under 'what's new'
> Hrrm--Adam, I think you know how much I respect you and your efforts for
> we, the users, and so also hope you'll forgive the sarcasm but....
> Hrrm, somehow, I'm missing the part that says--if you want to change
> your runlevel the way you've done it since it's inception, simply do....
> So, I fear that I would have to say this is the Volgan effect. You
> mention a change, without really saying how it will change the everyday
> stuff. Actually, it implies that there won't be a difference as it says
> that it maintains compatibility.
Vogon, not Volgan. :) And yes, that issue isn't documented, mainly
because it isn't intended to be permanent (systemd will likely grow
compatibility with the runlevel specified in inittab somehow). In the
meantime, it is mentioned in the systemd FAQ, at
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/FrequentlyAskedQuestions . I was pointing out, though, that the fact that F14a changes the default init system *is* extensively documented, and as your original post's reference to upstart clearly indicated, you hadn't noticed that. If you had it would probably have been more obvious that systemd was the reason it wasn't working, and you'd probably have found the various explanations of the issue.
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