F14 Alpha - First impressions

David dgboles at gmail.com
Thu Aug 26 17:35:39 UTC 2010

On 8/26/2010 8:46 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com
> <mailto:metherid at gmail.com>> wrote:
>      On 08/25/2010 11:21 PM, Fulko Hew wrote:
>     >
>     > a) I'm disappointed that I couldn't try it in VirtualBox v3.0.8,
>     >    but then again F13 wouldn't install there either.
>     >    (It might work under newer VirtualBox's, but thats all I have right
>     > now.
>     >    (The installation 'infinite loops during system loader phase with a
>     > stack trace')
>     You might want to take this up with VirtualBox.  Not something we test
>     for or control.
> I'm going to ignore this for now.  Newer versions of VirtualBox will
> probably
> work, but (to make a long story short) I'm stuck on F8 because I'm waiting
> for KDE 4.x to be as 'user friendly' as 3.5 is; that unfortunately means
> sticking to older versions of 'other' stuff too.)
>     > b) I'm glad that it does (so far) attempt to install under QEMU
>     >    (under the virtual machine manager from Fedora 8)
>     >
>     > c) The GUI install wouldn't work, but I fell back to text install.
>     Hardware specs please.
>  QEMU (or the Virtual Machine Manager) reports the Display as 'Virtual
> Display - VNC server'.
> What else can I look at?
>     > d) I was disappointed that it would not let me select the packages
>     >    to install (I want KDE not Gnome)
>     >
>     > More comments if I get any.
>     Did you use a live images?  If you did, it doesn't allow selection of
>     packages during installation.   The non-live images do allow you select
>     KDE in the custom package selection screen.
> I used  'Fedora-14-Alpha-i386-DVD.iso'
> I have to assume, that since it found something wrong/incompatible with the
> VNC server provided by way of QEMU/VM, that it decided to fall back to text
> mode install, and only provide the minimal installation set. ;-|
> But then again yum fails to work too, but thats because it seems the network
> didn't get configured either under QEMU either.  Its too bad.  Older
> versions
> of Fedora run fine under these old VMs.
> I guess I'll just have to wait and test F14 under physical hardware...
> and then hope KDE4.5 is good enough (compared to MY needs inKDE 3.5)
> to make the switch.

Virtualbox has never supported alpha or beta software. Xorg and kernels
in Fedora, and other, development packages sometimes do not 'work'.

F-14, and Rawhide, have an unsupported version of Xorg.

BTW VMware usually has similar situations.


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