2010-01-11 @ 16:00 UTC (11am EST) - Fedora QA Meeting Recap

[James Laska]

Thanks Kamil for hosting the meeting.  As always, minutes and irc
transcript available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100111.

= Attendees =	

People present (lines said)

* kparal (129)
* wwoods (47)
* maxamillion (31)
* jlaska (17)
* cwickert (13)
* lmacken (10)
* Viking-Ice (9)
* Oxf13 (7)
* tk009_ (5)
* nirik (4)
* zodbot (3)

Regrets:

* [[User:Liam]]
* [[User:Rhe]]
* [[User:jlaska]]

= Agenda =

*
[http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-January/087802.html
Proposed meeting agenda]
*
[http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-11/qa.2010-01-11-16.00.html meetbot summary]

== Previous meeting follow-up ==

* Viking-Ice investigating adding an LXDE test day to the F-13 test day
schedule
* maxamillion investigating scheduling a XFCE test day to F-13 test day
schedule
* adamw and rhe to discuss ways to add install testing as a QA activity
* jlaska will reach out to mclasen for thoughts on F-13 fit'n'finish
test days
** Ideas posted to [[Talk:QA/Fedora_13_test_days]].  A main fit'n'finish
track is likely not in plan for F-13.
* jlaska to reach out ot fedora-{test,devel}-list for trading reviews
** Request sent, see
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-January/043856.html
* jlaska to reach out to beland for guidance/ideas on how to document
the process (or point to existing documentation) for how bugs are noted
(common_bugs, release notes, install guide etc...) How to determine
which bugs land in which place
**No action taken yet

== AutoQA project update ==

Discussion around the proposed QA changes for F-13 based on
[[Fedora_12_QA_Retrospective#Recommendations]].  Begin identifying gaps
and owners.

=== rpmguard package comparison ===

* Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Package%20update
%20tests
* Owner - [[User:kparal]]

Kamil informed the team that rpmguard has been merged into master.
Also, Kamil posted an update to his blog about the changes included in
the new version (see
http://kparal.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/rpmguard-a-wiki-page-and-a-new-output-format/).  Along with an improved output format, Kamil also documented each of the tests performed by rpmguard on the wiki (see https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/wiki/rpmguard).

Kamil initiated discussion around designing a method for presenting
package update test results (see
https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-January/000110.html)

=== Deps/conflicts prevention ===

* Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/autoqa%
20depcheck
* Owner - [[User:wwoods]]

[[User:wwoods]] informed the team that a new hook will be required
(post-bodhi-update).  This AutoQA hook will trigger when someone files a
new update request in bodhi.  Wwoods has been working with lmacken to
figure out how to query for that info (and fix some bugs in the bodhi
API).

=== install automation ===

* Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Automate%
20installation%20test%20plan
* Owner - [[User:lili]], [[User:rhe]]

[[User:wwoods]] outlined the work needed to support integrating
automated install tests into AutoQA by creatign a track milestone and
several tickets to outline the eventual work required to integrate
install automation into AutoQA.

[[User:lili]] and [[User:rhe]] have started exploring test design using
the rats_install/install.py test as a starting point.

=== packaging/deployment ===

* Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Packaging%20and%
20Review
* Owner - [[User:jlaska]]

Current status on packaging:
* autotest-client - undergoing review - {{bz|548522}}
* autoqa - packaged (see
[http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/autoqa/autoqa-0.3-2.fc12.src.rpm
autoqa-0.3-2.fc12.src.rpm]), will submit once autotest-client is
accepted
* gwt-* - investigating scope of packaging needed
* autotest - packaged (see
[http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/autoqa/autotest-0.11.0-4.el5.src.rpm
autotest-0.11.0-4.el5.src.rpm], will submit for review after gwt*
accepted

== Open discussion - <Your topic here> ==

= Upcoming QA events =

* 2010-01-21 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
* 2010-01-28 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
* 2010-01-04 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
* 2010-02-05 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #1
* 2010-02-11 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' (boot media testing)
* 2010-02-12 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #2

= Action items =

* maxamillion bring back conversation about Xfce 4.8 updato on
xfce at lists.fp.o and inform about conclusion
* Viking-Ice write lxde tests and find a date for the test day
* cwickert to file an infrastruture ticket for the lxde mailing list
* adamw and rhe to discuss ways to add install testing as a QA activity
* jlaska to reach out to beland for guidance/ideas on how to document
the process (or point to existing documentation) for how bugs are noted
(common_bugs, release notes, install guide etc...) How to determine
which bugs land in which place?

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