test Digest, Vol 77, Issue 32

Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com
Thu Jul 15 21:05:12 UTC 2010

On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 22:13 +0200, Till Maas wrote:

> Yes, but what exactly do you want to have? If you do not want to test
> updates for a certain package ever, just remove the package from the
> machine. And if the package is already installed and did not cause any
> trouble (e.g. because of broken deps or conflicts), then afaik a zero
> karma comment is ok.
> So would it be enough to have a short-cut for this 0-karma comment with
> a predefined text or should this new command make f-e-k create a local
> list of updates to ignore?

No. As I wrote in my initial mail, I've had one maintainer complain
already about having lots of (to them) useless 0 karma comments on an
update. Comments saying 'I can't really test this but it didn't break
boot' are kinda useful for critpath updates, but really useless for
non-critpath updates which we would never expect to break boot in the
*first* place. The only kind of feedback that's useful for those is
feedback from people who've actually tested the package directly.
Posting useless 0-karma comments just to make the package not show up in
f-e-k any more is kind of an abuse of process, because f-e-k is just a
helper widget, the real point of the process is the public feedback it
generates, and if we generate useless feedback just to make our helper
widget happy, we're not contributing anything positive.

I do agree with 'just remove the package', but there might be cases
where the tester has it installed for some real reason but isn't exactly
sure how to manually exercise it, for those cases it'd be nice to have a
'please don't show me this one again' button, I think.
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org

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