2010-06-14 - Fedora QA meeting recap

James Laska jlaska at redhat.com
Mon Jun 14 17:49:10 UTC 2010


As always, minutes and IRC transcript available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100614

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):
      * jlaska (155)
      * adamw (71)
      * kparal (22)
      * robatino (14)
      * Oxf13 (14)
      * jskladan (13)
      * zodbot (5)
      * pjones (4)
      * hicham (3)
      * lmacken (2)
      * Viking-Ice (2)
      * Southern_Gentlem (1)

Regrets:
      * liam
      * rhe
      * maxamillion
      * wwoods

= Agenda =
      * Proposed meeting agenda -
        http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-June/091507.html
      * MeetBot summary -
        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-14/fedora-qa.2010-06-14-15.00.html

== Previous meeting follow-up ==

     1. jlaska will discuss CommonBugs entry for {{bz|552423}} with
        halfline
              * Created
                http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F13_bugs#gnome-panel-crash
     2. Adamw will propose a document 'What do proventesters test for'?
              * Drafted at
                https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_proventesters_instructions
              * Will send to mailing list for review this week
     3. jlaska to check-in with lmacken on the status of
        https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424 and requiring bodhi
        karma for critpath updates
              * Inprogress, reached out to lmacken, but he is swamped
                this week.
     4. jlaska to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join to
        include link to proventester page
              * Adamw posted several updates to [[QA]], [[QA/Join]] and
                [[QA/Updates_Testing]] pages
              * jlaska still a bit confused about several items on
                [[QA/Join]] and took an action to post changes to the
                list for feedback
     5. adamw to forward wwoods a good explanation of the nss-softokn
        problem scenario to ensure autoqa catches it in future
              * No updates this week, keep on for next week
     6. jlaska to add autoqa FIXME links for a wiki page describing how
        to update repoinfo.conf when branched release is available,
        linked from the existing branched SOP pages
              * Created
                https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_update_AutoQA_repoinfo.conf

== Fedora 13 QA Retrospective ==

      * Owner - Jlaska
      * Summary
              * Jlaska organized [[Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective]] feedback
                into a list of QA recommendations for Fedora 14.
      * Next steps...
              * Need to clean up the page a bit, but expect to send this
                to the list for comments by Wednesday.

== Proventester status ==

      * Owner - maxamillion
      * Summary
              * Adam Miller announced that the proventesters wiki page
                ([[QA/JoinProvenTesters]]) is no longer a draft.  We
                have several TRAC requests to join the ''proventesters''
                group.  [[User:Adamwill]] asked whether we can start
                processing ''proventesters'' requests.
      * Next steps
              * Review and finalize adamw's proventesters instructions
                document (see
                [[User:Adamwill/Draft_proventesters_instructions]])
              * Waiting on feedback from lmacken on the status of
                https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424 and
                re-enabling ''proventester'' karma for critpath packages

== AutoQA initscripts test validation ==

      * Owner - jskladan
      * Summary
              * Josef asked for help in validating a new round of
                SysVinitscript AutoQA tests.  
              * See announcement at
                http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-May/091311.html
              * See wiki instructions at
                https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/wiki/initscripts
              * Blog post at
                http://jlaska.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/autoqa-help-wanted-initscript-verification/ 
              * Current progress at
                http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-June/091466.html
      * Next steps...
              * Encourage + assist volunteers as they arrive

== AutoQA ==

      * Owner - kparal
      * Summary
              * The immediate goal is to automate
                https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Package_Update_Acceptance_Test_Plan
              * The team met and discussed task priorities and agreed on
                the the following task priority -
                https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-June/000668.html 
      * Next steps...
              * jlaska - set up testing instance of autotest-server
                      * INPROGRESS - expected later this week thanks to
                        mmcgrath
              * jlaska - find a machine where resultdb may run (it can
                be VM, publicly accessible preferred
                      * Same as above
              * kparal - implement *quick* virtualization support --
                https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/181
              * jskladan, wwoods - bodhi hook needs to be tested --
                https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/87
              * jskladan, kparal, wwoods - continue implementing and
                testing resultdb --
                https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/145

= Open discussion - <Your topic here> =

== Fedora 14 desktop testing ==

      * Owner - Adamwill
      * Summary
              * Adam informed the team that he was working on expanding
                the desktop test coverage for Fedora 14 to, in addition
                to GNOME, include KDE, XFCE and LXDE.
      * Next steps ...
              * Expects to have tests out to the mailing list for review
                soon

== AutoQA Media Kit Sanity ==

      * Owner - Liam
      * Summary
              * Liam has been working to automate the media kit sanity
                tests (see
                [[:Category:Installer_Image_Sanity_Test_Cases]])
      * Next steps ...
              * Continue to refine test
              * Robatino asked if the tests were also comparing the
                actual ISO size with the ISO header size (see
                http://bugzilla.redhat.com/585006)

== Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso boot problems ==

      * Owner - Adamwill
      * Summary
              * Adam noted that there are several reports of the
                Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso failing to boot for users on
                fedoraforums.org
              * See details in
                http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=245321,
                and
                http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1364323,
                and
                http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=245844 
      * Next steps ...
              * Anyone who can assist, please direct discussion to
                http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bz597283

= Upcoming QA events =

      * 2010-07-08 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
      * 2010-07-15 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
      * 2010-07-22 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
      * 2010-07-23 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #1
      * 2010-07-30 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #2

= Action items =

     1. jlaska to propose a clean-up of the [[Critical Path Packages]]
        wiki to be a suitable home for critpath information

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