F12 update issues

Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com
Tue Mar 2 17:06:22 UTC 2010

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 11:52 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 08:45 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 11:33 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > 
> > > So, I think having an automated test that basically does these steps and
> > > verifies that the current set of updates can be successfully installed
> > > on a GOLD install would be very useful.
> > 
> > it wouldn't hurt, but we (QA and Richard) already know about this
> > problem. The thing is, it's basically impossible to fix, for F12.
> Right, I know. And I also know how to work around it now.
> My question was about making sure that we don't run into similar issues
> with F13.

As I said, we really need to have priority PK updates to make that
possible. At present there's no way we could guarantee it, even with
testing; exactly the same thing could happen again. This didn't happen
when F12 first came out, we couldn't have caught it before release; it
only appeared after the update set for F12 came to include packages
which trigger the bug.

At present something similar could happen in F13 - a hidden bug in PK
which would only emerge with some update package that came out after
release - and we would not be able to 'fix' it for the same reason: we
can ship a fix for PackageKit as an update, but if PK can't install the
initial update set, it can't install the update that fixes itself. :) We
could *spot* the problem with automated testing, but we couldn't prevent
Adam Williamson
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