Fresh install, no network

Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at
Mon Nov 1 19:53:32 UTC 2010

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at>wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 20:16 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > BTW the Live CD has exactly the same problem. I don't understand why
> > people aren't screaming about this. It's a very ordinary machine with
> > very standard hardware.
> Just in case subsequent discussion didn't render it obvious, people
> mostly aren't screaming because this bug isn't a general one. On most
> systems, networking works fine. This has some hardware- or
> configuration-specific element to it.

Clearly. I'm just trying to understand what it might be given that the
identical hardware (a very common Intel LAN chip on an Intel mobo) on the
identical network had no problems with any previous version of Fedora
including F13, and I'm using a fresh install of the default Desktop profile
of F14 with no changes whatsoever. It's particularly worrying that nm-applet
gives a message complaining about not connecting to "the session bus"
(presumably Dbus) followed by a core dump. I realize that it's not practical
to test every possible combination of hardware and network before release,
but given that the problem is real and reproducible I'm looking for
suggestions to resolve it.

I've not yet reported this to BZ, mainly because copying the various
messages and log files is going to have to be done the hard way, but I'll
try and get round to it after work.

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