[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Beta RC3 Available Now!

[James Laska]

On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 00:16 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> James Laska writes:
> > Andre correctly reminded me that 'ssh' installer support is not intended
> > as a replacement for a telnet install.  Rather, it is a means for
> > enabling 'ssh' to remotely monitor install progress.  Translation, you
> > can ssh into the installing system and monitor /tmp/*log or do whatever
> > else you want from a shell.  Essentially, it provides the shell you
> > normally get on tty2, but over the network.

Please keep in mind, the Fedora QA team tests and provides feedback on
how aspects of Fedora match intended behaviors.  We don't make policy
around what features/support should or shouldn't be worked on.  So I
definitely understand it's frustrating when support for a feature is
removed or changed, this likely isn't the best forum to influence
development.
 
> So, what's the new way to install on a remote machine where one has no
> hands-on access? What do those of us with machines at dataplexes like
> The Planet, 

It's not new, but most system administrators deploy a large number of
headless systems using kickstart.  

> or with virtual machines on services like Virtual Host do?

Installing on virtual systems is a different issue, you have root
console access and can control the installation using the virtual
systems serial device.  I'm not sure I understand the use case for a
remote 'telnet' installation to a virtual guest.

> To my mind ssh would be a perfect replacement for telnet for all the
> obvious security reasons.
> 
> If, however, the answer is vnc, then I'm compelled to point out that
> leaves some of us out of the party.

You might try starting discussion on anaconda-devel-list at redhat.com
mentioning your use cases for the former 'telnet' installation method.
With a positive approach, you might get some best practices or
discussion/debate on how best to balance your needs with code
maintenance/complexity.

Alternatively, I just filed a bug to update the Fedora 14 installation
guide to accurately reflect current installer support for 'telnet'
install (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=640309).  Feel
free to follow discussion there.

Thanks,
James

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