!! NVIDIA WORKS !!!

[Lyvim Xaphir]

Nice commentary on this subject, Chris.  And dead on.


--Xaphir

--- On Fri, 10/15/10, Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora at cawllc.com> wrote:

> From: Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora at cawllc.com>
> Subject: Re: !! NVIDIA WORKS !!!
> To: "For testers of Fedora development releases" <test at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 1:59 PM
> On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 12:33 -0500,
> Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> > >>>>> "SR" == Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com>
> writes:
> > 
> > SR> I've never quite understood this logic. 
> If it's working, there is a
> > SR> change in Fedora, and it doesn't work, this is
> NVidia's job to fix?
> > 
> > Yes, precisely.
> > 
> > Their code is not open; we can't fix it.  Who
> else's job could it
> > possibly be but their when they are the only ones with
> the code?
> 
> Actually, this is an oversimplified view based on pure
> ideology - and
> exactly the one which causes issues between the OpenSource
> and other
> communities.
> 
> It assumes that Fedora's code is perfect because it's open,
> and that
> because nVidia's code broke from a change in Fedora code
> that the
> problem must be nVidia's. History proves something
> different - that the
> real problem could be in either code base, and has been
> before.
> 
> Since nVidia is not likely to open their code anytime soon,
> the issues
> of how to troubleshoot where the problems lie can't be
> completely
> collaborative. And this decision by nVidia means they wind
> up having to
> look at both code bases to find the problem, with little
> help from
> Fedora Project. They then either patch their own code,
> submit a patch to
> the Fedora Project team (which then has to go through
> Fedora's normal
> approval process), or perhaps do both.
> 
> The conflict lies in that the Fedora "everything must be
> OpenSource"
> ideologues often cop a pretty nasty attitude towards
> proprietary vendors
> like nVidia, and that favor is, unfortunately, often
> returned.
> 
> The pragmatic reality is that we will all be dealing with a
> mix of
> OpenSource and proprietary software for the foreseeable
> future, whether
> we like it or not. Given that, it would help if all parties
> involved at
> least tried to hold out the proverbial olive branch and get
> along. That
> way, actual problems might get fixed without the various
> camps getting
> into pissing contests about who actually broke what and who
> is
> responsible, and true software choice is preserved for
> everyone...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
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