heads-up: upstart reversion coming soon

[Michał Piotrowski]

2010/9/15 Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com>:
>  On 09/15/2010 11:24 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>> There is one big difference though.  Upstart does work and for a
>> "naive" user this detail that /sbin/upstart handles sysvinit job is
>> not really visible.  In the case of systemd this works "mostly".
>> Definitely much better now than when it showed up for the first time
>> but if you will scratch little deeper then various niggling
>> "imperfections" show up all over.  Maybe all this could be fixed in
>> time for a release or maybe not.  I think that waiting for F15 until
>> the whole environment matures enough was a responsible decision.
>>
>> BTW - I run rawhide and do not plan to switch that back to upstart.
>
> Since, I am a co-maintainer of systemd and watching bugs flow through,
> I think we need a more concrete list of what is missing/needs to be
> fixed for this to be acceptable for Fedora 15.  I think, off the top of
> my head,  I would like the following
>
> * Fedora documentation, especially the longer guides to be updated to
> cover systemd extensively

Please point me to a similar document written for Upstart.

> * system-config-services needs to work with systemd native units

Does it work with native Upstart jobs?

> * since s-c-services uses chkconfig, chkconfig needs to be hooked up to
> systemctl
> * shutdown semantics needs to be fixed
> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624149)

Almost fixed AFAICS

> * Direct option for switching default target
> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627277)

Is there a special tool for Upstart that modify default runlevel in inittab?

> * Option to revert settings
> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630174)

Any counterpart in the Upstart world?

I do not think that this were objective criteria.

>
> Rahul

Regards,
Michal