Multiple F15Beta bugs in under an hour

Alon Levy alevy at redhat.com
Thu Apr 21 13:30:59 UTC 2011


On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:07:38PM -0500, John Morris wrote:
> Ok, downloaded the F15Beta live cd today.  Booted it on a Thinkpad X200s
> docked with external display, keyboard and mouse + internal panel.
> 
> Guess I'll run the bugs by roughly in the order discovered.
> 
> Grub is the first one.  The external keyboard didn't work.  It does on
> F12 which is the primary OS on the machine.
> 
> Lauching the file browser (nautilus?) and mousing over the available
> mount points got a crash from gvfs.
> 
> Next bug is no debuginfo packages for key bits like glibc means no
> automatic bug report from abrt was possible.  Guys, no debug packages
> means no good reports, which is the whole point of a beta, right?
> 
> Cups is present and browsing is enabled but no printers show.  Lots of
> printers are expected to show.  Nothing interesting in the logs.
> 
> My large display is to the left of the laptop.  This is correctable via
> the GUI.  Making it the primary display isn't, xrandr is required to set
> the primary display with 'xrandr --output HDMI2 --primary'  If the user
> needs the terminal for something that basic, more baking needs doin'.

Did you try pulling the titlebar from one display to another in the display settings
widget? works for me.

> 
> Invoking the sound config locks if you click on a default sound.  Quiet
> repeating grunts are audible until it finally crashes for good and
> again, abrt can't make a report.  Not sure yet if that is a kernel
> problem, the eternal horror of pulseaudio or something new.  When I get
> time I will poke around more and report.  Please don't be a kernel bug!
> I have had to pass over F13 and F14 because of kernel bugs in undocking
> if I have to skip F15 for sound I'm boned.  Pulseaudio I can remove.
> 
> Launch firefox and display the About popup.  Notice anything missing?
> Yup, the only way to be rid of it is to stop FF and kill off
> xulrunner-bin.  Or perhaps xkill?  Is this a window manager (mutter?)
> bug?
> 
> And finally, good thing I read the mailing lists... otherwise I'd have
> never guessed holding ALT down was the only way to shutdown or reboot.
> What genius of user interface design thought that was a good idea?
> REALLY?  Seriously, this is introducing a whole new idiom to user
> interfaces that people have zero expectation of.  The choices presented
> in a menu should not vary based on buckybits.  It violates decades of
> user expectations.
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