Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com
Tue Apr 26 03:43:55 UTC 2011


Ian Pilcher <arequipeno <at> gmail.com> writes:

> ... 
> > It was stated that GNOME upstream, to use the Ford analogy, have eliminated
> > the panel/menu/desktop-icon desktop metaphor from existence in Fedora 'by
> > fiat'. I find that a pretty silly argument given the choices that are
> > available.
> ... 
> In the case of GNOME, the developers of that project have made a
> decision that effectively removes the GNOME 2 interface as an option for
> many users -- the vast majority of whom do not have the time and/or
> skills to build and maintain a desktop environment.  We will never know
> which interface would have been more successful in the FLOSS desktop
> environment "market".  That's unfortunate, but it's also probably
> inevitable in a world of limited resources.
> ...

Bill,

take a look at this:
http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/

"What's important is not that we can conceive the idea, but that when we
actually test it on people you discover it doesn't work... your intuition is
wrong." - Daniel M. Russell (IBM Almaden / Xerox PARC)".

That is their own motto to live by, for both Gnome 2 and 3 !

How do you feel now about your statement above regarding proven and accepted
elements of Gnome 2 DE that were eliminated ? Knowledge and experience they
themselves and others gained over many years of designing and user-testing
optimal and effective desktop environments !

Now this:
http://gnome3.org/

"A satisfying experience, whatever kind of computer you use: GNOME 3 will feel
right at home on netbooks as well as larger machines"

Really ? Like servers. workstations, PCs, notebooks ? Used by RH enterprise
customers, non-technical businesses (big and small), users who do not sleep
with their computers but use them as *tools* to accomplish their daily tasks ?

Why did Fedora decide to abandon Gnome 2, instead of offering Gnome 3 as
an experimental college-level project via a spin (as one poster here already
asked), representing a work-in-progress where geeks still learn their Computer
Science principles and skills ?

Do you know that even on Gnome 3 Shell devs (and users) list people admit that
they possibly boxed themselves into a corner and now are not willing or able
to reverse the course where things went wrong ?

It is a Fedora problem, and it will be a Red Hat problem in due time !

JB




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