Mike Chambers mike at
Mon Feb 28 03:05:51 UTC 2011

On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 21:37 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 19:57 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > I don't care how hard they are working on it.  Never said the developers
> > weren't doign a good job.  I complimented on it was lot better since F14
> > was being developed.  But does NOT mean I have to agree bout pushing it
> > out the door without some of the bells and whistles to go along with it,
> > as well as other things that seem to be missing, such as how to
> > configure firewalls, selinux, configure other things.  
> Configuring firewalls and selinux are hardly core desktop functionality,
> and not having them will not make GNOME 3 incomplete. You certainly know
> full well that you can use s-c-firewall and selinux tools just fine for
> that job, anyway, and were just blowing steam...

Guess we just need to not talk bad bout it at all or criticize it since
everyone is gonna get defensive bout it, or not own up to any mistakes
or problems.  Maybe we just all just blow smoke up everyone's butt and
say how awesome it is and it's the best thing since peanut butter?  

Look, yawl are doing an awesome job, and especially the ones that do
this for free and volunteer.  But it feels like because this wasn't
included in F14, that it now HAS to be included in F15, even though apps
still aren't ready for it yet, or included.  If there is few and far
between that say this and don't amount to much, then guess we are the
abnormal.  But as I"m seeing the emails, guessing I"m not the only one,
and this has nothing to do with change, and things being different.  Has
to do with lots of crap not being included , or not waiting for it to be
ready and just trying to get it out the door or be the first to include

Just my $.02, which may amount to nothing anyway, just a user trying to
give his feedback.

Mike Chambers
Madisonville, KY

"The best town on Earth!"

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