2011-05-16 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap

[James Laska]

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20110516


TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
=================================================================
      * tflink to follow-up with cloud sig for test day recap - msavy
        composing recap right now, will have sent to the list soon
      * jlaska to follow-up w/ halfline on bug#702650, kparal+jlaska to
        verify - Appears to be tested and resolved, thanks kparal and
        halfline 
      * adamw proposing patch for bug#697834 - Done ... AcceptedNTH and
        available for walters if desired 
      * jlaska - file proposed NTH bugs for F14->F15 - Done and
        AcceptedNTH with help from Adamw


TOPIC: F-15-Final-RC3 status
=================================================================
      * STATUS: INPROGRESS - (go/no_go on Tuesday, May 17)
             A. Installation testing looking good, a few more tests
                remaining -
                https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
             B. Desktop testing looks good for GNOME and KDE, more help
                needed - Desktop testing still needed -
                https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test
             C. Continue to monitor for blocker bugs at
                https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
      * Thank you Robatino for the RC3 announcement and wiki
        management!!!


TOPIC: Proposed Blocker/NTH bug review
=================================================================
The team conducted a *mini* review of 4 proposed blocker bugs ...

     1. RHBZ #704726 - image:Package-x-generic-16.pnggnome-desktop3 -
        upgrade from F-14 broken due to conflicts with gnome-desktop
              * AGREED: tentatively agree to keep on list awaiting
                additional feedback from reporter. If conditions hold,
                likely not a blocker since yum upgrades are not the
                official upgrade mechanism 
     2. RHBZ #704727 -
        image:Package-x-generic-16.pnggnome-themes-standard - upgrade
        from F-14 broken due to conflicts with gnome-themes
              * AGREED: tentatively agree to keep on list awaiting
                additional feedback from reporter. If conditions hold,
                likely not a blocker since yum upgrades are not the
                official upgrade mechanism 
     3. RHBZ #704729 -
        image:Package-x-generic-16.pnggobject-introspection - upgrade
        from F-14 broken due to conflicts with dbus-glib
              * AGREED: tentatively agree to keep on list awaiting
                additional feedback from reporter. If conditions hold,
                likely not a blocker since yum upgrades are not the
                official upgrade mechanism 
     4. RHBZ #704728 - image:Package-x-generic-16.pngpolkit - upgrade
        from F-14 broken due to conflicts with polkit-desktop-policy
              * AGREED: tentatively agree to keep on list awaiting
                additional feedback from reporter. If conditions hold,
                likely not a blocker since yum upgrades are not the
                official upgrade mechanism 

And 3 proposed NTH bugs ...
     1. RHBZ #704188 - image:Package-x-generic-16.pnganaconda -
        TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable
              * AGREED: AcceptedNTH 
     2. RHBZ #704020 - image:Package-x-generic-16.pnggnome-panel -
        libpanel_applet changed ABI; not all applets ported
              * AGREED: RejectedNTH - Yum upgrades not officially
                supported, day-0 update acceptable. 
     3. RHBZ #703944 - image:Package-x-generic-16.pngpfstools -
        pfstools-octave has broken dependencies.
              * AGREED: RejectedNTH - Yum upgrades not officially
                supported, day-0 update acceptable. 


TOPIC: AutoQA Update
=================================================================
      * kparal implemented package caching in AutoQA (optional, default
        off). When enabled, it drastically speeds up mainly depcheck
        runs.
      * jskladan introduced an algorithm to filter interesting
        information from depcheck log about why a particular package has
        broken dependencies
      * We started to nicely document our test cases. First piece is
        upgradepath (see
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AutoQA_tests/Upgradepath)
      * tflink worked on issue of yum getting stuck in a loop that
        generated huge depcheck logs. When new yum builds land in stable
        repos, we should be have that handled. Tflink also noted the
        updates are still in 'updates-testing', pending additional
        positive karma.
      * vhumpa created a pretty text template for our future test
        reports (see
        http://vhumpa.fedorapeople.org/prettylog_upgradepath_example2.txt)
      * Jlaska reported that the log size issue appears under control.
        Compressing logs > 100M every 2 hours 


TOPIC: Upcoming QA events
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http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-quality-tasks.html

     1. Tuesday, May 17 - Go/NoGo meeting -
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting
     2. Tuesday, May 24 - Final (GA) release 


TOPIC: Open Discussion - <your topic here> 
=================================================================
     1. pbrobinson talking to dgilmore about shifting the SoaS release
        date to include some day-0 fixes


ACTION ITEMS
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      * All - keep testing and discussing issues on
        test at lists.fedoraproject.org
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