Syslog not running?

James Laska jlaska at
Mon May 16 19:44:40 UTC 2011

On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 14:28 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> James Laska wrote:
> > Did you upgrade your system from F14?  If so, depending on when you
> > upgraded, you may be seeing
> >
> >
> > The current proposed workaround is to run:
> >   $ systemctl enable rsyslog.service
> According to the bug this is being ignored as a vital issue as it does 
> not "clearly hit any release criteria". 

Ignored is not the correct term.  It was requested as a nice-to-have for
F15 ... and it fell off the maintainers radar.  Also, it seems I forgot
to keep nagging them about it.  We'll likely have this in 'updates' in
time, and disaster will be averted.

> In this case, I think, the 
> release criteria needs to be defined to state clearly that logging needs 
> to function properly. If anaconda were to suddenly stop logging install 
> events I'm sure there would be 3 or 4 people immediately on the job of 
> fixing the problem.

Probably, hard to say in the world of hypotheticals.  I don't think
anything sinister is happening here ... this just fell off peoples
radars.  Thank you for raising this issue.

> The bug also mentions the workaround will be "clearly documented". Where 
> will that be? From my browsing of the users list many people use 
> preupgrade so many people will not know their logging has ceased to 
> function properly unless a zero-day (or close) fix is released.

As usual, that documentation would occur on the CommonBugs page
(  We typically don't
start processing those until after the release has been blessed.  That
page has instructions in the event anyone wants to add their own

> This brings me to my next rant topic:
> Is preupgrade considered an 'official' method of upgrading between 
> releases? If not, then preupgrade should be removed from the repos. If 
> so, then the release criteria is in dire need of fixing. Then there are 
> those that use the DVD to upgrade. I assume they will be broken as well.

No drastic action needed ... preupgrade has been, and continues to be,
documented as the official upgrade mechanism.

(Yes, this is the F14 link ... I don't have the F15 link handy ... but
that doesn't mean it isn't supported in F15).


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