Syslog not running?

[James Laska]

On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 14:28 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> James Laska wrote:
> > Did you upgrade your system from F14?  If so, depending on when you
> > upgraded, you may be seeing
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699198
> >
> > The current proposed workaround is to run:
> >   $ systemctl enable rsyslog.service
> 
> According to the bug this is being ignored as a vital issue as it does 
> not "clearly hit any release criteria". 

Ignored is not the correct term.  It was requested as a nice-to-have for
F15 ... and it fell off the maintainers radar.  Also, it seems I forgot
to keep nagging them about it.  We'll likely have this in 'updates' in
time, and disaster will be averted.

> In this case, I think, the 
> release criteria needs to be defined to state clearly that logging needs 
> to function properly. If anaconda were to suddenly stop logging install 
> events I'm sure there would be 3 or 4 people immediately on the job of 
> fixing the problem.

Probably, hard to say in the world of hypotheticals.  I don't think
anything sinister is happening here ... this just fell off peoples
radars.  Thank you for raising this issue.

> The bug also mentions the workaround will be "clearly documented". Where 
> will that be? From my browsing of the users list many people use 
> preupgrade so many people will not know their logging has ceased to 
> function properly unless a zero-day (or close) fix is released.

As usual, that documentation would occur on the CommonBugs page
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F15_bugs).  We typically don't
start processing those until after the release has been blessed.  That
page has instructions in the event anyone wants to add their own
content.

> This brings me to my next rant topic:
> Is preupgrade considered an 'official' method of upgrading between 
> releases? If not, then preupgrade should be removed from the repos. If 
> so, then the release criteria is in dire need of fixing. Then there are 
> those that use the DVD to upgrade. I assume they will be broken as well.

No drastic action needed ... preupgrade has been, and continues to be,
documented as the official upgrade mechanism.

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Installation_Guide/ch19s02.html

(Yes, this is the F14 link ... I don't have the F15 link handy ... but
that doesn't mean it isn't supported in F15).

Thanks,
James

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