OT: GNOME a Linux-only project ? systemd a dependency of GNOME 3 ?

JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com
Mon May 23 12:01:01 UTC 2011

> ...

Some more enlightenment:

systemd vice d-bus:
From: Lennart Poettering <mztabzr at 0pointer.de>
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:59:18 +0200
"In the long run I hope that systemd takes a position next to D-Bus. i.e.
outside of GNOME, shared with other systems, a basic OS building block,
but pretty close to GNOME.

> Also you are speaking about (D-Bus) interfaces, and it is already
> envisioned to have them implemented by other components, should we talk
> about D-Bus interfaces that we expect to be available for GNOME, instead
> of saying "systemd"?

Really depends. In some cases dbus interface is fine (for example for the
mechanisms). In some other cases not so much, for example replacing CK in
gdm will be a different kind of interface."

Commentary on the above:

An implementation of D-Bus supports most POSIX operating systems, and a port
for Windows exists.
Freedesktop.org releases D-Bus ...
The design of D-Bus addresses two specific cases:
   1. communication between desktop applications in the same desktop session;
      to allow integration of the desktop session as a whole, and address
      issues of process lifecycle
   2. communication between the desktop session and the operating system,
      where the operating system would typically include the kernel and any


systemd and GNOME vice wide community interests:
Subject: Re: systemd as external dependency
From: Andy Tai <atai at atai.org>
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:46:51 -0700
"...GNOME is a desktop environment, and making it tied to an init system does
not make sense.
You don't care about other Unix like systems with other init
implementations; you would screw Debian, Ubuntu, BSDs, Solaris, etc.  But
this is not and cannot be the attitude for a wide community.
You have no logical argument to force a desktop environment to support a
very narrow viewpoint of yours."


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