F17 Final Blocker Bug Review #1 minutes

Tim Flink tflink at redhat.com
Fri Apr 20 22:09:01 UTC 2012


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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-04-20/f17-final-blocker-bug-review-1.2012-04-20-17.01.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-04-20/f17-final-blocker-bug-review-1.2012-04-20-17.01.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-04-20/f17-final-blocker-bug-review-1.2012-04-20-17.01.log.html



Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (tflink, 17:01:06)

* Introduction  (tflink, 17:15:26)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 17:15:41)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
    (tflink, 17:16:10)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 17:16:43)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:17:05)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:17:12)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:17:16)
  * 31 proposed blockers  (tflink, 17:17:37)
  * 5 accepted blockers  (tflink, 17:17:37)
  * 10 proposed NTH  (tflink, 17:17:37)

* (755335) Shutting down while auto-updating breaks the system  (tflink,
  17:21:08)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=755335   (tflink,
    17:21:08)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:21:08)
  * AGREED: - 755335 - AcceptedBlocker - The installed system must be
    able to download and install updates with yum and the default
    graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops  (tflink,
    17:33:55)

* (810530) PackageKit locks out yum way too often & for too long
  (tflink, 17:34:08)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810530   (tflink,
    17:34:08)
  * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:34:08)
  * AGREED: - 810530 - RejectedBlocker RejectedNTH - While an annoyance,
    this doesn't hit any of the F17 release criteria and doesn't seem
    wise to take as an NTH fix  (tflink, 17:40:11)

* (737508) grub2 cannot install when /boot is md and first partition
  starts at sector 63  (tflink, 17:41:38)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737508   (tflink,
    17:41:41)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:41:44)
  * AGREED: - 737508 - RejectedBlocker - While this bug does affect
    dual-booting with windows - it's using a non-standard partition
    layout and was deemed too much of a corner case to take this as a
    blocker  (tflink, 17:53:08)

* (748209) KeyError: '/boot/efi': anaconda will try to do an EFI install
  if there is an existing EFI system partition but it has not been set
  as /boot/efi  (tflink, 17:53:49)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748209   (tflink,
    17:53:52)
  * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA  (tflink, 17:53:54)
  * AGREED: - 748209 - RejectedBlocker - This is too much of a corner
    case to block release for. Making a mistake in custom partitioning
    is required in order to hit this and it only affects EFI systems
    with pre-existing installs  (tflink, 18:00:01)

* (784828) boot option 'noselinux' doesn't work  (tflink, 18:00:12)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=784828   (tflink,
    18:00:12)
  * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:00:12)
  * AGREED: - 784828 - RejectedBlocker - There are no release criteria
    around being able to install w/o SELinux and using 'selinux=0' is an
    acceptable workaround  (tflink, 18:07:18)

* (790348) If specified repo= doesn't contain package repository, fall
  back to default online repos  (tflink, 18:07:32)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=790348   (tflink,
    18:07:35)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:07:38)
  * AGREED: - 790348 - AcceptedBlocker - It must be possible to install
    by booting the installation kernel directly, including via PXE, and
    correctly specifying a remote source for the installer itself, using
    whichever protocols are required to work for package retrieval at
    the current phase (Alpha, Beta, Final). This must work if the remote
    source is not a complete repository but contains only the files
    necessary for the installer itself to run.  (tflink, 18:13:17)

* (800609) maximum window size is 800x600, should be full screen
  (tflink, 18:13:23)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800609   (tflink,
    18:13:26)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 18:13:28)
  * 800609 has been fixed and closed - it doesn't need to be evaluated
    as a blocker any more  (tflink, 18:21:40)

* (804846) dracut fails to retrieve network kickstart file, possibly
  PXE-specific, timing issue  (tflink, 18:22:13)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804846   (tflink,
    18:22:17)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:22:19)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options   (adamw,
    18:27:15)
  * AGREED: - 804846 - We need more data on this before voting on it -
    it would be nice if the reporters could all test with as close to
    the same setup as possible  (tflink, 18:34:23)

* (806931) "network --device link --activate" in kickstart inside
  initrd.img breaks anaconda  (tflink, 18:34:34)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806931   (tflink,
    18:34:37)
  * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:34:39)
  * AGREED: - 806931 - RejectedBlocker - This does not hit any of the
    release criteria as currently written - if the criteria change to
    make this a blocker, please re-propose  (tflink, 18:46:05)

* (811242) PXE and repo=nfs or repo=nfsiso freezes installer  (tflink,
  18:47:46)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811242   (tflink,
    18:47:46)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:47:46)
  * AGREED: - 811242 - AcceptedBlocker - It must be possible to install
    by booting the installation kernel directly, including via PXE, and
    correctly specifying a remote source for the installer itself, using
    whichever protocols are required to work for package retrieval at
    the current phase (Alpha, Beta, Final). This must work if the remote
    source is not a complete repository but contains only the files
    necessary for the installer itself to run.  (tflink, 18:52:23)

* (814643) "Words" corrupting (all) odt documents.  (tflink, 18:52:36)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814643   (tflink,
    18:52:37)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 18:52:37)
  * AGREED: - 814643 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F17
    final release criteria "All applications listed under the
    Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality
    test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use. They must also
    have working Help and Help -> About menu items" for KDE  (tflink,
    18:58:32)

* (802381) Port Printers panel to FirewallD1 API  (tflink, 18:58:37)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802381   (tflink,
    18:58:39)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 18:58:42)
  * AGREED: - 802381 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any release
    criteria for F17 and could be fixed with an update  (tflink,
    19:03:05)

* (748920) Setting back time breaks boot  (tflink, 19:03:08)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748920   (tflink,
    19:03:11)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:03:13)
  * AGREED: - 748920 - We need more information and opinions from devel
    before making a decision on this since it's not a clear violation of
    criteria but is still an ugly failure mode  (tflink, 19:13:33)

* (808759) firewall-applet - Icon could not be loaded  (tflink,
  19:13:54)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808759   (tflink,
    19:13:54)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 19:13:54)
  * AGREED: - 808759 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F17
    final release criterion: "All elements of the default panel (or
    equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must
    function correctly in common use"  (tflink, 19:20:18)

* (814696) When installing, after reboot only black screen with "X"
  cursor shows up instead of firstboot  (tflink, 19:20:35)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814696   (tflink,
    19:20:38)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:20:40)
  * AGREED: - 814696 - We need more information and re-testing on this
    before deciding on blocker status  (tflink, 19:25:48)

* (814220) Logomarks should be removed and replaced with text  (tflink,
  19:26:12)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814220   (tflink,
    19:26:12)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 19:26:12)
  * AGREED: - 814220 - RejectedBlocker - The blocker process does not
    cover legal issues  (tflink, 19:30:57)

* (803434) [swell-foop] Help -> Content function is broken  (tflink,
  19:31:10)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803434   (tflink,
    19:31:11)
  * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 19:31:11)
  * AGREED: - 803434 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F17
    final release criterion: "All applications listed under the
    Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality
    test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use."  (tflink,
    19:35:18)

* (799667) [abrt] gnome-settings-daemon-3.3.90.1-1.fc17: g_logv: Process
  /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon was killed by signal 5 (SIGTRAP)
  (tflink, 19:35:30)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799667   (tflink,
    19:35:33)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:35:36)
  * AGREED: - 799667 - AcceptedNTH - It's not clear whether this affects
    enough HW to be a blocker but there is a fix that needs to be
    applied and is a bit nasty to hit right after install  (tflink,
    19:49:41)

* (791130) segfault in _clutter_actor_finish_queue_redraw  (tflink,
  19:49:49)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=791130   (tflink,
    19:49:49)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:49:49)
  * AGREED: - 791130 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any release
    critera or precedents and therefore is not a blocker. Re-propose as
    NTH and it will be re-evaluated if not fixed with new update
    (tflink, 20:12:24)

* (804835) Failed to install GRUB2 into boot partition  (tflink,
  20:12:56)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835   (tflink,
    20:12:56)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 20:12:56)
  * AGREED: - 804835 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't violate any of the
    F17 release criteria and is a non-standard method of installation -
    a workaround is available.  (tflink, 20:16:41)

* (802106) ipw2200 bg doesn't work in f17  (tflink, 20:16:48)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802106   (tflink,
    20:16:48)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 20:16:48)
  * ACTION: tflink to find better numbers on how many affected installs
    are in smolt  (tflink, 20:21:22)
  * AGREED: - 802106 - we still need data on how many ipw2200 installs
    are registered in smolt - will vote once we have that data  (tflink,
    20:22:23)

* (796479) firewalld conflicts with libvirt's default network  (tflink,
  20:22:32)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796479   (tflink,
    20:22:32)
  * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 20:22:32)
  * AGREED: - 796479 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 beta release
    criterion "The release must be able host virtual guest instances of
    the same release, using Fedora's current preferred virtualization
    technology"  (tflink, 20:27:05)

* (813905) livecd-iso-to-disk does not create USB correctly from a DVD
  image  (tflink, 20:27:18)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813905   (tflink,
    20:27:21)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 20:27:24)
  * AGREED: - 813905 - AcceptedBlocker - The documentation needs to
    cover use cases that require --format and there needs to be a
    warning if the process is going to fail. The approved blocker does
    NOT cover any claims of lost functionality - that would need to be
    filed in another bz  (tflink, 20:35:11)

* (799132) numastat is written in perl  (tflink, 20:35:52)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799132   (tflink,
    20:35:52)
  * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA  (tflink, 20:35:53)
  * AGREED: - 799132 - RejectedBlocker - As written, this bug does not
    hit any of the F17 release criteria  (tflink, 20:40:31)

* (813548) pulseaudio terminates very often  (tflink, 20:40:53)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813548   (tflink,
    20:40:53)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 20:40:53)
  * AGREED: - 813548 - There haven't been enough reports of this to
    justify taking as a blocker - will wait another week to see if there
    are more reports before deciding on blocker status. It would be nice
    to see more testing on this  (tflink, 20:46:16)

* (804216) pungi doesn't use yum transactions, which is a problem with
  langpacks  (tflink, 20:46:22)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804216   (tflink,
    20:46:24)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 20:46:27)
  * AGREED: - 804216 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release
    criterion "All critical path actions on release-blocking desktop
    environments should correctly display all sufficiently complete
    translations available for use"  (tflink, 20:47:46)

* (799591) SELinux is preventing NetworkManager from 'read' access on
  the file /etc/sysctl.conf.  (tflink, 20:48:35)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799591   (tflink,
    20:48:38)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 20:48:40)
  * this was fixed in F17 but re-opened when the same bug showed up in
    F16 - will remove from consideration for F17 final blocker  (tflink,
    20:51:40)

* (740280) /dev/live no longer exists  (tflink, 20:51:51)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740280   (tflink,
    20:51:51)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 20:51:51)
  * AGREED: - 740280 - This is not a blocker with the current release
    criteria but we feel that it should be if it is indeed impacting the
    ability to create persistent overlays for live images on USB. No
    status change WRT blocker status of this bug; will re-evaluate if
    new criterion is accepted  (tflink, 21:07:30)

* (798328) No rescue shell is offered for fsck errors  (tflink,
  21:07:44)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=798328   (tflink,
    21:07:44)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 21:07:44)
  * AGREED: - 798328 - We need more information and testing on this
    before deciding on blocker status. While it could be fixed with an
    update, if you hit it before updating, that doesn't help. It would
    also be good to know if there are any possible workarounds for the
    issue  (tflink, 21:23:44)

* (802552) wlan0: WPA: Failed to get master session key from EAPOL state
  machines - key handshake aborted  (tflink, 21:24:04)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802552   (tflink,
    21:24:07)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 21:24:09)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811447 states
    "PEAP does not work"  (adamw, 21:31:11)
  * AGREED: - 802552 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
    F17 alpha release criterion "The installed system must be able to
    download and install updates with yum and the default graphical
    package manager in all release-blocking desktops" for PEAP wireless
    APs  (tflink, 21:35:43)

* (810161) Regression: change to 16 bpp by default in virt breaks KDE
  Plasma desktop  (tflink, 21:35:55)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810161   (tflink,
    21:35:58)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 21:36:01)
  * AGREED: - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This is a cosmetic polish
    issue that only hits certain VM configurations - it doesn't clearly
    violate any of the release criteria and doesn't seem severe enough
    to justify slipping release for but a well tested fix would be
    considered after final freeze  (tflink, 21:53:17)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 21:58:58)
  * there were no objections to not reviewing the NTH this week. Will
    revisit next week  (tflink, 21:59:20)
  * Next blocker review meeting will be on 2012-04-27 @ 17:00 UTC
    (tflink, 22:01:38)

Meeting ended at 22:06:31 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* tflink to find better numbers on how many affected installs are in
  smolt




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* tflink
  * tflink to find better numbers on how many affected installs are in
    smolt
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




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