Problems with live install support for F18 Alpha

[Adam Williamson]

On 2012-08-23 22:12, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> On 08/24/2012 12:57 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> Hey, folks - just wanted to make sure anyone who's interested is in 
>> the loop. The anaconda team has been working to try and get live 
>> installation working with the newUI changes, but right now they don't 
>> think it'll be possible to have it ready in time for F18 Alpha, at 
>> least without slipping again. They don't think it can be done by next 
>> Wednesday.
>>
>> So, if we wanted to release the Alpha on current schedule (just 1 
>> week slip), it'd have to be with no live images, or with 
>> non-installable live images. If we want installable live images for 
>> Alpha, we'd have to slip at least another week.
>>
>> That feels like a 'policy' decision to me, so I've filed a ticket 
>> with FESCo to discuss it at their next meeting:
>
> So you just went ahead and filed a ticket *before* we could decide
> this any other feelings you have that you just go ahead with.

Any Fedora contributor can raise an issue to the attention of FESCo. It 
does not need to be done with any more 'official' standing than that, or 
to be done on behalf of a Fedora group, project or SIG. There's nothing 
inappropriate about me, as an individual Fedora contributor, asking 
FESCo to take a look at this issue. I did not have any intention to 
suggest, nor do I think I did suggest, that I was speaking on behalf of 
anyone but myself. I notified this list about the ticket since it seemed 
obvious that people subscribed to the list would have an interest in it.

Maybe we
> should just start dropping installation test cases and other criteria
> since it is pretty apparent that Anaconda wont meet them in time no
> wait they already tried to do that...

I tried to present every possible course of action in response to the 
issue for discussion in the ticket. I couldn't dictate any particular 
outcome of FESCo's discussion in any case, but insofar as I could 
suggest possible actions they might take, I tried to present all that 
are vaguely feasible. I certainly included the option of delaying the 
F18 release. I did not in any way attempt to influence them in the 
direction of waiving criteria in order to follow the schedule.

> This is yet another warning sign that the *new* installer is not in
> ready enough shape for F18 and should be delayed to F19...

That's certainly one thing to think about, yes. I'm sure the wider 
topic will come up in the discussion.
-- 
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