off to a nostart F18B start

[Felix Miata]

On 2012-12-30 22:37 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed:

> On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 23:21 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

>> Next, installation destination: it shows my HD with model number. I click it,
>> but nothing apparent happens. Oooohhhhhhhh, down at the botton below a desert
>> of whitespace, in mousetype, each click of the image alternately selects and
>> deselects several naked words instead of anything that obviously has anything
>> to do with the task at hand. So finally I figure out how to select a
>> partition, and when done specifying mount point and filesystem, the _prior_
>> partition has been set to / instead of the one I chose, and there's no way to
>> undo it!!!

> I don't think you were doing what you think you were doing.

I'd been following the F18-Beta installer - Aaaargh! thread and thought I 
understood enough to get through it.

>  That screen
> is not about 'selecting partitions'. You're just selecting target disks
> for the install. You can pick what disks should and shouldn't be
> considered targets for the install, and if you click on 'Full disk
> summary and options...',

I did click that. There was only one HD to choose from.

>  you can pick which one gets the bootloader.

Never saw the word bootloader anywhere.

> (Post-Beta, you can also select not to install a bootloader here). That
> is all you can do at this screen. Once you've picked your disks, you
> click Continue at bottom-right, and you should get a dialog which either
> tells you you have enough space to install, or you don't have enough
> space to install. Either way, there is a checkbox marked 'Let me
> customize disk partitioning', and a drop-down to select the default
> partition type, LVM, btrfs or raw ext4.

Been there too.

> If you check the 'Let me customize disk partitioning' box and hit
> 'Continue' or 'Reclaim space' (depending which version of the dialog you
> get), you get into custom partitioning, where you can do pretty much
> anything you like (though it works very differently to old custom part),
> including re-using existing partitions, removing them, shrinking them,
> and creating new ones. The partition type you set in the drop-down will
> be the *default* type for new partitions you create during custom part,
> but you can still change them to a different type if you like.

Based upon what I had been reading here, I thought I understood what I was 
seeing and doing.

> If you *don't* check the box, then what happens depends whether you have
> enough space for an install or not. If you got the 'you have enough

90+% of a 500GB HD was freespace. What I wanted was installation to a 
partition already created for the purpose.

> space' version of the dialog, and you don't check the box, then when you
> hit Continue, you're done: you'll get an autopart install, using

I never select any installer's automatic anything. I partition, and install 
my preferred bootloader, before I start, always.

> whatever partition type you picked from the drop-down, when you complete
> the other spokes and start the install. If you got the 'you don't have
> enough space' version of the dialog, then when you hit 'Reclaim space',

To me, reclaim space = disturb existing. I would never make such a choice 
intentionally.

> you'll get a dialog which lets you delete or shrink some existing
> partitions to free up space for the Fedora install. Once you've made
> choices that would free up enough space for install, you can escape this
> dialog, and again you're done: you'll get an autopart install into the
> freed-up space.

> So what happened in your case depends on what path you chose through the
> later dialog. It sounds like you misunderstood what each step of the
> disk selection / partitioning process does. At a guess, you wound up
> doing an autopart install when you wanted a custom one, but I'm just
> guessing.

May be. I'm not going to try to use the F18 installer through to completion 
ever again. As a follow up I did a minimal F17 into the same space after 
restoring what I had to start with. If it accepts a Yum upgrade to F18, then 
I'll try running F18, but no more of that vexing F18 installer for me.

I also did a follow-up screenshot to 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=701190 so you can see my 
definition of illegible text.
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