Sign of the Gnome 3 apocalypse?

[夜神 岩男]

--- On Tue, 2012/3/27, drago01 <drago01 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2012/3/27 夜神　岩男 <supergiantpotato at yahoo.co.jp>:
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 2012/3/27, drago01 <drago01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Tom Horsley <horsley1953 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > This bug casually mentions that an app (swell-foop) menu has
> >> > moved from the app itself to the gnome-shell panel:
> >> >
> >> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803430#c4
> >> >
> >> > My reaction to this is "What in the $#@! is going on?!?".
> >> >
> >> > Is gnome 3 now being turned into ubuntu unity where
> >> > no apps have menu bars and you only discover them by
> >> > accident when you happen to mouse over the unity panel?
> >>
> >> No.
> >>
> >> > Does anyone understand the logic behind this apparent
> >> > wildly popular meme of hiding essential controls where
> >> > no one is ever likely to stumble across them?
> >>
> >> Application global actions (ones not tied to specific windows or for
> >> single window apps) can be optionally placed in the application menu
> >> by the app.
> >>
> >> https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu
> >
> > ...doesn't that literally mean "yes" ?
> 
> No.
> 
If you say so... but I'd like to point out that having a place where an application "might or might not" place some controls depending on a condition that is not obvious to the user makes me think this is some unneccessary and avoidable ambiguity in the interface, and I think that's what Tom was getting at.

Also, the Ctrl+Alt+TAB (the old Leftie Vulcan!) -> Navigate thing reminds me of why we used to have the Space Cadet keyboard, how it got that name, and why it was eventually ditched...