New Anaconda - BACK, BACK, BACK...

[David Lehman]

On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 23:08 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
> On 13.09.2012 22:02, David Lehman wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 15:00 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
> >> Hey!
> >>
> >> I've been playing with new Anaconda since Alpha RC2 and I have some
> >> doubts about whole concept of this sub pages with configuration options
> >> and jumping around them.
> > You can indulge your doubts or you can adapt. It's up to you. I
> > recommend the latter.
> >
> >> Why, the hell user has to pres BACK each time he made some decision or
> >> configuration change? Personally I prefer pressing NEXT because this
> >> reminds me what the goal is (working system installation) and that I'm
> >> going to reach it sooner or later.
> >>
> >> It looks like some Fedora designers prefer to step backward then going
> >> forward to achieve what the installer was created for: Working Fedora
> >> system installation.
> > It's just a different model. Instead a long linear progression in which
> > every user must visit every page/step, you only visit those sections
> > that require your attention. It will save time for most users.
> >
> > You will be pleased to find (in the Beta) that we have changed the
> > wording of some of the buttons to improve clarity.
> >
> >> Please, don't tell me that this is because configuration could be done
> >> in parallel and it's for my convenience and to give me the choice which
> >> aspect of installation I prefer to configure first. Maybe it's good for
> >> advanced users but for dumb average computer guy this introduced lot of
> >> instability and is not intuitive.
> > If by "intuitive" you mean "the same as the old interface" then I must
> > agree. Otherwise, I think you are just trying to hold on to what you
> > know.
> >
> >
> 
> Thanks for your reply. I know that new anaconda is different than old
> one. I really have nothing against changes and I think I'll quickly
> adapt. My only concern is new, and in my opinion not so intuitive,
> naming and proceeding convention by which Fedora 18 is installed.
> 
> In my typical case, I had to touch every single spoke in the new
> installer, so I gained nothing. Only English speaking people can forget
> about configuring language and keyboard layout. Taking number of
> different time zones in US, we'll quickly find that majority of people
> will need to change this too. No need to say about disk layout which is
> more or less customized or at last reviewed by everyone (excluding
> unattended installations).
> 
> Silently allowing people to leave root password not set is also bad idea
> in my opinion. I know what root account is and from previous Fedora
> releases I also know that I either must have a root account or user in
> admin group. But in new installer this is not so clear until firstboot
> is run (where, there is no correspondence to choices from anaconda).
> There is no clear explanation why should I leave root empty and that
> I'll be asked for adding user to admin group later.
> 
> Once again, thanks for all great work, you and other anaconda devels
> have done. I'll try to accept as much new features as I can.

Thanks. This is only alpha, and you will already notice significant
improvements in the first Beta trees. We still have lots of refinements
to make, but things are progressing rapidly.

David