Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

"J├│hann B. Gu├░mundsson" johannbg at gmail.com
Thu Jan 3 15:45:30 UTC 2013

On 01/03/2013 03:43 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On 01/03/2013 03:26 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>>> That's more - do not ship blindly, try to figure out as much as
>>> possible
>>> but within the time frame we have.
>> You may not have been long enough sitting in the release chair to
>> realize that the time frame that was used to initially determined the
>> first release cycle of the Fedora has since long been out grown.
>> Heck I cant even remember any release that has been manage to be
>> shipped
>> on time.
>> Can you provide me with proper argument why it is so urgent to
>> release
>> now? Why the rush? What benefit it's supposed to bring to our end
>> user
>> instead of delivering them better complete working product?
> The only argument - we look like fools. I admit this is my first
> release, it's a fun one :) but - for F18, we were planning six
> months release cycle (+some time for blocking issues, it's
> non sense to release with blockers). But F18 was very different -
> but changing the release cycle/planning should happen before.
> Also we are still able to deliver very good product, it's always
> about compromise - even if we would just scratch all "time based
> release cycle" - you can aim on perfection, but we're not Hurd :)
> It's always about scope, about resources - currently we do not
> have resources to fix this in timely manner - if you will
> volunteer, I'll reconsider. And yeah, it makes me sad we do not
> have any stronger i18n teams around that could handle all these
> issues - but it's again about resources.

Is that not even a more an indicator that that our release cycle is 
simply to short and we should delay the release to late may/june when 
F19 should have been released, so that little manpower we have to fix 
those issue can address those issue in time?


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