Fedora 20 Swastika

moshe nahmias moshegrey at gmail.com
Thu Nov 21 15:43:42 UTC 2013


I think that it doesn't look like a swastika, but I can understand why some
people think they see it in the picture. The orientation is wrong for the
Nazi symbol. Since the context of fedora is about the absolute opposite of
the Nazi philosophy and the old symbol is also a good one (the one the Nazi
copied from) I don't see why we should not use this picture.

I am a Jew and Israeli if it matters for the discussion.


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Ian Malone <ibmalone at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 21 November 2013 07:12, Petr Schindler <pschindl at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Čt, 2013-11-21 at 07:57 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:25 PM, James Patterson
> >> <jamespatterson at operamail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I noticed the new Fedora 20 wallpaper looks like a swastika. It would
> be
> >> > great if it didn't for the final release, it would upset a few people.
> >> >
> >> > I filed a bug here under wallpapers, but moved it to distro since
> it's a
> >> > policy decision:
> >> >  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1030643
> >> >
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I do see the swastika, but it you I doubt that I would have seen it
> >> unless I knew what I was looking for.
> >> In my view, given the fact that the image was never designed to
> >> resemble the swastika, there's no reason to change it.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to see swastika there but I haven't been able to do so. There
> > is nothing what could be interpreted as swastika. Can someone draw it
> > and send a picture? I think that this thread is totally insane and sad.
> > But it is probably because people always tend to see things they don't
> > like everywhere (like conspiracies).
> >
>
> I'm not convinced having a copy with a swastika drawn on it floating
> around is a good solution to this problem. There are intersecting
> diagonal lines, it doesn't have the characteristic rotational symmetry
> (which made it such a common symbol before it was appropriated). If
> you stare at it long enough you can try and invent the necessary arms,
> but really if we've got lots of people looking at this trying to see
> something and failing then it's not there. Or you're going to have to
> ban diagonals from all future wallpapers.
>
> Not really seeing the H either.
>
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