[Fedora-trans-ar] Why Fedora installs all the world languages on my poor laptop?!

[Mohamed Eldesoky]

Can we put more load on Fedora/RedHat packagers ??
To isolate the language files of every package, and put them all in a separate 
language RPM for every language ??
I know, it wouldn't be a single RPM file...but we have to find a way really.
Do you think we should post this upstream ?


On Wednesday 17 August 2005 11:50 pm, sabdelg at redhat.com wrote:
> Bring it on!
>
> Post a thread per bug, explain the bug, point a fix/patch.
> Let us discuss them, and we can then open a bug to get it
> fixed.
>
> Sherif
>
> Quoting Munzir Taha <munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa>:
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> > في يوم الثّلاثاء 11 رجب 1426 20:11, كتب
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> > sabdelg at redhat.com:
> >> > Today I checked the Arabic locale .mo files by doing locate .mo. I was
> >> > astonished to find my poor laptop doesn't only have Arabic and English
> >> > languages installed but every language one can dream of. This makes a
> >> > total of 332MB on my hard disk. Now I am going to remove them manually
> >> > which is not something to be recommeded since it breaks package
> >> > validation. Any one here knows why is this? Any solution? Should I
> >> > tell Sherif to file a bug? ;)
> >>
> >> can you do the following against some of the .mo files:
> >>
> >> rpm -qf /path/to/file.mo
> >
> > Each rpm package contains all the languages packed within it. For
> > example, rpm -qf locale/ru_RU/cups_ru_RU
> > cups-1.1.23-15.1
> >
> >> I would like to know which RPM is installing the files, and if they
> >> are all coming from one RPM.
> >
> > no not from one RPM
> >
> >> Also, if there is deps that is being
> >> statisfied by installing these files befor we can say it should not
> >> be there or it need to be fixed.
> >
> > I am not speaking about installing an input method for CJK or the like.
> > Every package, every game, every screen saver ;) is installed with all
> > the languages. If you can push things regarding to locales and glibc from
> > inside redhat, then I would be happy to tell you about other
> > arabic-related bugs where I feel the redhat guy there is not cooperative
> > enough ;)
> >
> >> > Another point is I am missing the all the Arabic locales files like
> >> > LC_TIME, LC_COLLATE, ... and hence I can't display the date in Arabic.
> >> > There is is also no ar_xx locales for different Arabic countries -
> >> > only a standard ar! May be I am missing something obvious?
> >>
> >> You wiwll need ar_xx if you have different translations for different
> >> countries.
> >> But as I can see it. For example, you have UK Vs. UK because there are a
> >> team who is translating or providing the differnet version of certain
> >> words from UK.
> >> Hence, once we have different groups from different countries who
> >> speaks arabic,
> >> and they speak in different dialog and want different translation, you
> >> can then
> >> see or ask for different ar_xx :) (at least that's how I think it is)
> >
> > No Sherif, it's not like this. The point of different ar_xx is not mainly
> > concerned with the Arabic language translation but with locales. In other
> > words, the ar_xx folder should contain the files that correspond each
> > country to it's numbers system, calendar system, .... For example, in
> > Saudi Arabia, we use Hijri Calendar as an official calendar and we use
> > Hindi numerals where as in Morocco they use Gregorian Calendar and Arabic
> > numerals. The ar_xx should take care of all this with the LC_TIME and
> > LC_NUMERIC. Say the same thing with regards to currency symbol, ...
> >
> > - --
> > Munzir Taha
> > Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer
> > Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project
> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar
> > Maintainer of the OpenBugs project page at
> > http://www.arabic-fedora.org/munzir/OpenBugs.html
> > Master CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101
> > New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA
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Mohamed Eldesoky
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