system-config-date timezones

Yuri Chornoivan yurchor at ukr.net
Thu Jan 24 09:06:00 UTC 2013


Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:10:05 +0200 було написано Yaron Shahrabani  
<sh.yaron at gmail.com>:

> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor at ukr.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:49:18 +0200 було написано Yaron Shahrabani <
>> sh.yaron at gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>  Hi Yuri!
>>> Just to make sure, is this package using CLDR?
>>>
>>> Yaron Shahrabani
>>>
>>> <Hebrew translator>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Yaron!
>>
>> No. It is not. It is Fedora/Red Hat-only solution, not used in any other
>> distributions (AFAIK).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yuri
>>
> Hi again!
>
> CLDR has nothing to do with cross distro, it's a standard directory for
> international definitions like the names of the day in each language or  
> the
> name of the months, names of languages, countries etc.
>
> This way you don't need to wait for the translators to do it, you just  
> copy
> this definitions from there or use it via an external package providing  
> all
> this info (I think it's called ICU).
>
> Kind regards,
> Yaron Shahrabani.

No, system-config-date does not use CLDR and I am not a developer of  
system-config-date. Please report bugs if you want this feature.

The crowd translations from CLDR are of very low quality (imho) and should  
be used with great care, at least for Ukrainian. The results of their  
application at transifex are not very promising. The general idea was good  
but the implementation is very inflexible and at least sometimes leads to  
mistakes.

Broken dates in Ukrainian locale on Transifex due to mistakes in CLDR:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/55247264/broken_dates.png

Best regards,
Yuri


>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor at ukr.net>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>> You might already realized that system-config-date translations [1]  
>>>> were
>>>> wiped due to minor mistake in template names (the original template  
>>>> was
>>>> replaced by system-config-date interface template, then restored).
>>>>
>>>> The maintainer answered to my request as follows:
>>>>
>>>> "it seems that I've made a copy-paste error, I should have fixed this
>>>> now."
>>>>
>>>> Now the template is on its right place and the translations can be
>>>> restored using POs from src RPM. Just extract it for your language  
>>>> then
>>>> upload to Transifex [1].
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Yuri
>>>>
>>>> [1]  
>>>> https://fedora.transifex.com/****projects/p/system-config-**date/**<https://fedora.transifex.com/**projects/p/system-config-date/**>
>>>> resource/timezones_master/<htt**ps://fedora.transifex.com/**
>>>> projects/p/system-config-date/**resource/timezones_master/<https://fedora.transifex.com/projects/p/system-config-date/resource/timezones_master/>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> [2]  
>>>> ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/****fedora/linux/development/**<ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/**fedora/linux/development/**>
>>>> rawhide/source/SRPMS/s/system-****config-date-1.10.5-1.fc19.**src.**rpm<
>>>> ftp://fr2.rpmfind.**net/linux/fedora/linux/**development/rawhide/source/
>>>> **SRPMS/s/system-config-date-1.**10.5-1.fc19.src.rpm<ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/source/SRPMS/s/system-config-date-1.10.5-1.fc19.src.rpm>
>>>> >
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