system-config-date timezones

[Yuri Chornoivan]

Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:12:10 +0200 було написано Yaron Shahrabani  
<sh.yaron at gmail.com>:

> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor at ukr.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:10:05 +0200 було написано Yaron Shahrabani <
>> sh.yaron at gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor at ukr.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:49:18 +0200 було написано Yaron Shahrabani <
>>>> sh.yaron at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Yuri!
>>>>
>>>>> Just to make sure, is this package using CLDR?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yaron Shahrabani
>>>>>
>>>>> <Hebrew translator>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Yaron!
>>>>
>>>> No. It is not. It is Fedora/Red Hat-only solution, not used in any  
>>>> other
>>>> distributions (AFAIK).
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Yuri
>>>>
>>>>  Hi again!
>>>
>>> CLDR has nothing to do with cross distro, it's a standard directory for
>>> international definitions like the names of the day in each language or
>>> the
>>> name of the months, names of languages, countries etc.
>>>
>>> This way you don't need to wait for the translators to do it, you just
>>> copy
>>> this definitions from there or use it via an external package providing
>>> all
>>> this info (I think it's called ICU).
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Yaron Shahrabani.
>>>
>>
>> No, system-config-date does not use CLDR and I am not a developer of
>> system-config-date. Please report bugs if you want this feature.
>>
> I see, thanks for the clarification.
>
>>
>> The crowd translations from CLDR are of very low quality (imho) and  
>> should
>> be used with great care, at least for Ukrainian. The results of their
>> application at transifex are not very promising. The general idea was  
>> good
>> but the implementation is very inflexible and at least sometimes leads  
>> to
>> mistakes.
>>
> Why don't you get involved in CLDR in order to fix that?
>
>>
>> Broken dates in Ukrainian locale on Transifex due to mistakes in CLDR:
>>
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**55247264/broken_dates.png<http://dl.dropbox.com/u/55247264/broken_dates.png>
>
> Do you need my assistance in opening  a bug in CLDR?
>

No. Thank you. They switched off SurveyTool so I think that they have  
their own translators. They do not need my assistance to make their own  
mistakes. ;)

> Thanks for pointing that out, I had no idea, In Hebrew it works pretty  
> well.
>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yuri
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor at ukr.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You might already realized that system-config-date translations [1]
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> wiped due to minor mistake in template names (the original template  
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> replaced by system-config-date interface template, then restored).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The maintainer answered to my request as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "it seems that I've made a copy-paste error, I should have fixed  
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> now."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now the template is on its right place and the translations can be
>>>>>> restored using POs from src RPM. Just extract it for your language  
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> upload to Transifex [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Yuri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://fedora.transifex.com/******projects/p/system-config-****
>>>>>> date/**<https://fedora.transifex.com/****projects/p/system-config-**date/**>
>>>>>> <https://fedora.**transifex.com/**projects/p/**system-config-date/**<https://fedora.transifex.com/**projects/p/system-config-date/**>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> resource/timezones_master/<**htt**ps://fedora.transifex.**com/**<http://fedora.transifex.com/**>
>>>>>> projects/p/system-config-date/****resource/timezones_master/<h**
>>>>>> ttps://fedora.transifex.com/**projects/p/system-config-date/**
>>>>>> resource/timezones_master/<https://fedora.transifex.com/projects/p/system-config-date/resource/timezones_master/>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [2]  
>>>>>> ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/******fedora/linux/development/**<ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/****fedora/linux/development/**>
>>>>>> <**ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/****fedora/linux/development/**<ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/**fedora/linux/development/**>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> rawhide/source/SRPMS/s/system-******config-date-1.10.5-1.fc19.**
>>>>>> **src.**rpm<
>>>>>> ftp://fr2.rpmfind.**net/linux/**fedora/linux/**development/**
>>>>>> rawhide/source/
>>>>>> **SRPMS/s/system-config-date-**1.**10.5-1.fc19.src.rpm<ftp://**
>>>>>> fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/**linux/development/rawhide/**
>>>>>> source/SRPMS/s/system-config-**date-1.10.5-1.fc19.src.rpm<ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/source/SRPMS/s/system-config-date-1.10.5-1.fc19.src.rpm>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
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