Transifex has become proprietary

[Hajime Taira]

+1
We should move to Zanata.

Regards,

Taira

L10N Japanese Team


2014-07-11 11:03 GMT+09:00 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko at fedoraproject.org>:

> (2014年07月11日 09:12), Isaac Rooskov wrote:
>
>> Hi Jerome and team!
>>
>> Super-excited to find this discussion going on, and thank you for the
>> invite to join in.
>>
>
> Isaac, Luke and all
>
> +1 to move to zanata. If no objection, shall we start planning?
> As Yuri pointed, the question is 'can we do the migration right after the
> next string freeze?'. The software string freeze is 2014-07-22.
>
> I have created the draft page [1]. Could you all, from the view of zanata
> team and the view of translators, please advise any task required for the
> implementation to add the list? All the tasks eventually need to be placed
> into the schedule plan, so that we can share.
> Also any concern can be added in the list to resolve.
>
> From there, we evaluate and decide the detail?
>
> [1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata
>
> cheers
>
> noriko
>
>
>
>> 1. This type of notification system is something we are actually working
>> on at the moment (and I actually mean that). The first iteration will be to
>> have notification's going to a 'Zanata inbox' on a users Dashboard, with
>> email notifications coming next. The reason we have decided on this
>> approach is to ensure we get the notification system right before we start
>> emailing them to people. We would hate for people to start looking at
>> Zanata notifications as spam so it is very important to us that we get this
>> right.
>>
>> 3. I agree that this would be a great enhancement for Zanata and you are
>> not the first to suggest it. Luke, our UI designer (Cc'ed in), has recently
>> been going through and reworking our project view pages with many
>> improvements, and this is one that is on that to-do list. I'll be honest in
>> that if Fedora did choose to use Zanata then priorities can be re-adjusted
>> to meet your needs in a more urgent fashion. As an example, adjustment to
>> priorities is something that we have recently done based on feedback from
>> the OpenStack project starting to use Zanata.
>>
>> Any and all ideas or improvements you'd like to see to Zanata please do
>> add them as bugs to Bugzilla here:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Zanata
>>
>> If you add "Fedora" into the bug names then we will be easily able to
>> sort through and pick out the ones important to you all here, which will be
>> a great help in ensuring we target improvements you wish to see.
>>
>> I am personally going to be on leave all next week, so I have also Cc'ed
>> in Carlos who is the engineering lead for the project.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Isaac
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jérôme Fenal" <jfenal at gmail.com>
>> To: "Fedora Translation Project List" <trans at lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> Cc: "Isaac Rooskov" <irooskov at redhat.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 2:49:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: Transifex has become proprietary
>>
>> 2014-07-10 18:43 GMT+02:00 Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor at ukr.net>:
>>
>>> написане Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:50:10 +0300, William Moreno
>>> <williamjmorenor at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Today we have a process for new translators extremely broken and
>>>>> manual, very different from other teams, I'm part of Packager team
>>>>> where
>>>>> process is very clear and integrated with Fedora infra. A new
>>>>> translator
>>>>> need to follow these steps to be approved:
>>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Guide#Becoming _
>>>>> a_Fedora_Translator,
>>>>> we can realize there is no integration of Transifex with our FAS,
>>>>> Mailing
>>>>> list, Badges and especially with our Wiki, I think it's more relevant
>>>>> to
>>>>> the translation teams these issues than the interface.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  +1 I am looking than Zanata alow to login with FAS, since that, I
>>>> think
>>>> Zanata could work better with the de Fedora Infra :)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> No objections about Zanata. Just two remarks:
>>>
>>> 1. Is it possible to configure email notifications for RH Zanata server?
>>> It
>>> is hard to control large catalogs (similar to Fedora's one) without
>>> notifications.
>>>
>>> 2. Can we do the migration right after the next string freeze? It is
>>> hard to
>>> test and update translations during such migrations (proven by Tx
>>> migration).
>>>
>>
>> No objections either, provided the Zanata instance handles the load.
>>
>> Adding Isaac to the conversation if not already on the list for RFEs:
>> 3. One feature that is nice with Transifex is the ability to have a
>> pseudo-tree view of projects, whereas in Zanata, we end up with just a
>> list of projects, where it becomes difficult to find a particular
>> project.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
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